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    I’d be curious to see a similar list for the Reich. Like a legitimate one though, where they actually try to list what they’re proud of. At the moment I can only think of a list containing a bunch of “cut taxes for the ultra wealthy.”

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      “fucked the middle east”

      “revoked abortion rights”

      “let millions of f****ts die of HIV”

      “biggest prison population in the world - can I have a ‘hell yeah’ for modern slavery?”

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          Everyone except Bernie Sanders and a couple of other kooks. But yes, everyone else.

          Young people don’t realize how far things have moved left in American politics in the last 20 years, with Palestinian people in congress now and socialists running for president, and even people having big protests now without instantly just getting tackled and arrested by the NYPD by the hundreds and then stuffed in a warehouse.

          It’s still bad enough that I understand how people can’t grasp it and just assume “everything’s moving to the right all the time every year,” because that’s sort of what it feels like, but it’s not what’s happening.

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              I mean conservatives have held power since Carter. He was the last non-conservative president we had, he actually tried to reign in the CIA and get Israel to stop killing Arabs in a big way, among other things. Biden was actually way further left than the norm, if that tells you anything.

              We took a massive tumble with Reagan/Clinton, and then ever since then, we’ve been crawling our way back up towards some kind of humanity in government an inch at a time.

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                Biden literally split with the democratic party to stop desegregation. He was always one of the most conservative dems.

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                  Yeah, he co-sponsored the bill alongside Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. He was giving speeches for segregation while Bernie was getting arrested at civil rights protests. That was pretty much my exact point: The Democrats were the segregation party up until an instant before Biden got his start, and then he went from that and the crime bill, to thirty years later doing all this semi-progressive stuff as president. He is certainly not left in any real sense, but he was raising corporate tax and working on climate change instead of getting up talking about “super predators” and wanting to bomb Nicaragua with congress’s full support and things like that.

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      It used to be “beat the Nazis,” “got the railroads built,” and things like that. There is value to having some conservative values in government. The problems with America actually don’t have a lot to do with partisan politics; it is that the right wing turned into Nazis, and the “left” wing of the establishment politicians turned into Roman senators too busy getting blowjobs to realize that people are starving in the streets and can’t afford their insulin.

      I would actually be fine with Republicans of the John McCain / Dwight Eisenhower mold in government. If we could get rid of Mike Johnson and Nancy Pelosi (ideally by just dumping them into the Potomac), and have it be AOC and Adam Kinsinger, I’d be fine with that. The MAGA people are more overtly evil, but it’s not even really a party thing.

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        I remember seeing McCain on TDS before the 2000 election. He was fucking sharp then. Somewhere between then and 2008, he went off the rails and/or made a deal with the devil.

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          Yeah, 100%. I feel like maybe he lost his mind because of trying to become the president. Hunter Thompson talked about it, he said he saw it happen to a few different people, he compared it to a moose during mating season, just losing his mind to go after the goal.

          Maybe being embedded into a party that became so depraved took some kind of toll on him… having to deal with Sarah Palin. My God, I can’t even imagine. But yeah, whatever it was I 100% agree, something happened to him.

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          McCain became a shell of himself when they saddled him with Alaska Annie (or whatever that Tina Fey character’s name was). He could have been a uniting figure, but instead the right decided to eat their own.

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      Their list is always the same, although much of it applies to very few people, and none of it enhances the actual lives of everyday people:

      Cut taxes (not yours)

      Saved unborn babies (at great risk to mothers)

      Restored morality to government (pure horseshit, but they proclaim it loudly while destroying immigrant children’s lives, protecting pedophiles and posting videos of the president dumping feces on those who protest any of this).

      Restored financial stability (not once in the past 75 years)

      Cut inflation (Again, never happened.)

      In short: They have no accomplishments, so they demean those of others and lie about their lack thereof.