It’s wild just how much they’re trying to shove AI down our throats.
I’ll throw my money at any TV manfucturer that just sells me a dumb OLED TV with great picture quality. Heck, even drop the speakers, I won’t be using them anyway. Just a dumb panel with plenty of input/outputs.
I need someone to explain to me, what situation could possibly arise that would require me to use Copilot on my fucking TV?
LG’s recent software update has forcibly installed Microsoft Copilot, an AI assistant, on smart TVs without removal options, sparking widespread user backlash over privacy, bloatware, and loss of control. This highlights growing tensions in smart devices, where monetization often overrides user preferences.
Sure is ironic that the article summary is itself AI-generated.
Well LG did me a favor. Don’t buy LG tvs, Samsung appliances or HP printers.
Well, at least LG has a range of TVs turned monitors, i.e. without all that “smart” shit. So they have a usable alternative, something other vendors don’t.
Don’t buy LG anything. Everything I’ve bought from them has suckes
I have a freezer from them, it has worked well. Took a chance on the brand. But now it seems the display has broke after 3 years only… Hmm.
Their washing machines are good
I’ve had good luck with their mid-high end kitchen appliances and washer/dryer.
Not impressed with the TV and the AI update made the UI very slow and unresponsive. Next one will not be LG.
I have learned to never update any tv or media player, it usually becomes worse. :)
It may be possible to factory reset to the version you got from the beginning. Just have to figure out how.
We have had great luck with our LG microwave. It’s well over ten years old and the one issue we’ve had was caused by user error. Our two year old LG tv is meh. The backlighting is uneven; our much older Samsung looks much better.
Never connect your TV to your wireless and wired internet, even on initial purchase. Use a USB when updating your TV.
Or just have a extra vLan for untrustable Hardware
and why would that be any different? do they offer special usb-stick no-malware upgrade or what?
Don’t upgrade it past the day you set it up. Set it up with something like Nvidia shield or a fire stick so when it goes fucky on you, swap it with a better product. I went from a Chromecast first gen to Nvidia shield, love both products. Never connect the TV to a network where it can update and change the terms of agreement after the fact, like adding ads, adding apps, etc. avoid Roku for this as well. Changing product terms after purchase should be highly illegal.
FYI, it won’t let you delete Alexa either. I hate that fucking thing.
This is worse than anything Microsoft has done, I hope it leads to their decay as a company.
I hate when companies do nonsense like this.
And they still haven’t figured out how to stop Netflix from crashing 15 minutes into every other show I watch. First year I had it no problems. Then one day about two years ago, bam, unwatchable.
clankers should be segregated from society. oh and to the hexbear people: “clanker” is technically NOT a slur. seriously!
what?
You said something about clankers in your post. It reminded me of something they’d refer to battle droids as in star wars the clone wars. That is Captain Rex, one of the main characters
“clankers” is a term that’s being used for ai bots in a pseudo-negative way, i think
Must be an extension from the Star Wars root. The “clankers” in the show were stupid too.
So glad I blocked my LG C1 from the internet ages ago. Haven’t received updates in forever, don’t care. It’s a TV, it shows pictures. I even still have it LAN enabled so it can be controlled via Home Assistant automations, it just can never leave the home network, and that’s how I like it.
I can’t even remember how long ago I set it up to do this, I think it was when I heard rumor they’d be including ads in the UI, maybe 2023 or so.
So it talks to your media box exclusively and your media box summons the streaming services?
I’ve got a home assistant server hooked into homekit with voice (via an Apple HomePod). I can say something like “turn on home theater” and it will turn on the receiver, TV, and Apple TV, and will set the receiver to the Apple TV’s input.
Then, other automations. Like, I’ve got a Lytmi Fantasy 3 Pro light strip behind my TV, and when I launch video (via streaming, plex, whatever) on the Apple TV, it will automatically turn off the living room lights except for the color strip. Then if I stop or pause the video, it will turn them back on. Stuff like that.
That’s interesting - I have a C1 (2021). Where or how do you block these updates and have it connected to your local network?
It’s blocked at my router. I’ve had two routers the past few years, an ASUS AX5700 (RT-AX86u) and a NETGEAR AXE7800 (RAXE300). Both allow for blocking a device from internet without blocking LAN access. So you give it an IP on your network, and then just block it from internet. I use the Netgear currently and have the ASUS as a backup device.
I don’t know if it’s true, but I’ve read that some TVs will scan and seek to connect to open networks if it’s not connected at all, so I figure that way it’s totally blocked, and I still have access to its APIs for Home Assistant and Homekit use.
You’d need to set up a firewall rule on your router to block that device from accessing the internet. If you’ve got a fancy enough router you could set up a VLAN and second SSID for all your IoT things and only whitelist connections and devices you want to allow. That can get a little tricky to set up though
No factory reset?
Pi-hole
This shit is why more people now have dabbled in DNS blocking and vlans. Its “your” equipment but you need to literally treat it as hostile.
Easy way to never get this. Don’t connect the tv to internet. Literally get an Apple TV or fire stick or something else as a media player.
if you get one of those you end up in the same place with more steps… you need to hook up a pc (any format), preferably running Linux, so you have full control
Amd streamers dont give hd on desktop devices.
So if we go this route we need to bring our sea legs.
I assumed we are all fellow waterdogs
I think they want to replace conventional ui with a universal machine equivalent of a talking head. It could save billions on ui development. If only we would shut up and just swallow it.
I dunno. This doesn’t seem anything at all like Max Headroom.
