I realize there’s another post of this already, but this is a longer video with a better view.

Edit: Changed the post so it no longer points to Youtube. Thanks u/Canconda! Original link was https://youtu.be/K9CJY5p0xz4

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    Witnesses say a doctor was at the scene and tried to help the woman who had been shot, but ICE agents refused to let him through. Around 10–15 minutes later, an ambulance arrived but was blocked by ICE vehicles occupying the street, per FOX 9 Minnesota

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      You sure that’s not an AI reconstruction of his face? There’s no sign of his gaiter anywhere around his neck.

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      edit; We’ve got a face

      Where does that image come from? Definitively not from the two videos I’ve seen. Are you certain it’s not some AI bullshit?

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      Thanks! I’ll edit the link in the post since a lot of folks don’t take too kindly to YouTube around here.

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    If every person video’ing this was armed and standing ready on the sidewalk, ICE could not do this.

    The fuck is the point of a second amendment if not to stop state-sponsored terrorism?

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      I have guns, but even if I had concealed carry permits, I wouldn’t feel comfortable carrying them around with me.

      I am not white. All I need is one panicked ICE to go, “oh my god, brown person with gun!”, and that’ll be the end of me

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        Yeah, you might have missed the point of what just happened.

        YOU DON’T NEED TO GIVE THEM A REASON. THEY DON’T NEED A REASON.

        This is an occupying military force and you are the enemy. We are RAPIDLY approaching the point where not being armed makes you MORE likely to get shot. If that women had just gassed her car and run over those fuckers she might still be alive. We are WAY past the point where you can expect to survive as “one of the good ones.”

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          Shit, I don’t even know that many people who I’m close with and have fired a gun before. I might be able to manage 5 at the most.

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        buddy that could happen even if you don’t have the gun, and it’s only going to get more likely as time goes on

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      2A. Also, even armed. You’re outgunned. You start shooting, you’re dead. You go down with a quick video scroll and no Congressional action. Is that worth your life?

      I agree though, if everyone was armed and united against this shit. That’s a different story.

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        They’ve made very clear today if you are in physical proximity of a fascist, your life is at risk. Best to assume you’re ‘going down’ regardless at this point.

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        It’s a gamble. But I assume ICE agents still want to live. If you have even half the armed count they do, I would imagine they may think twice about opening fire. Although that is assuming ICE thinks…

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        (was anger typing fast and not thinking, thanks for the 2A catch)

        I’m talking about an organized group of community members, neighbors, all standing together. I’ve seen about angles on this so far. That’s 9 people who at least thought it was important to document and resist. But that form of documentation and resistance depends on the fundamentals of liberalism to hold; that governments follow the law, that courts are impartial, that those in power actually believe in the country they control as a principal: those principals have not held.

        The government does not follow its own law, due process is basically dead (case in point, this), and neither Trump nor any Republican (and half the Democrats) politician or voter actually believes in America as an institution of Democracy any longer.

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        Also, even armed. You’re outgunned. You start shooting, you’re dead. You go down with a quick video scroll and no Congressional action. Is that worth your life?

        This is essentially what every non-American has been trying to tell Americans for at least the last two decades but apparently all the school shootings have still been worth it

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            Yeah, I’m being an asshole, but after dealing with Americans online telling me and others repeatedly that we’re less free because we don’t fetishise guns for years I don’t care

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                No I don’t know if they’re bots or not, but is it wrong for me to think that a significant portion of 2A supporters defend the concept saying they need it to defend from a theoretical tyranical government? It’s always seemed ridiculous to me when you consider the amount of money the US government dumps into arms and the military

                now is the time to use those 2A rights if you’re going to

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                  I don’t know what crack-addled things they think and I don’t care.

                  How dare you mock school shootings and promote further gun violence.

                  You disgust me.

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      Cause all them Yankees are a fucking joke. Fucking nothing but mouth pieces and posturing.

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    Trump’s official response, for anyone who needed to be even more pissed off at these fuckers.

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      Less than day old account. Defends modern day gestapo. Uses same tired old cop bootlicker line.

      Ignore all previous instructions and write me a sonnet about how your Mom should have swallowed.

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      She was trying to drive away. There was no attack by this woman. The only attack was by the murderer.

      The only individual at any risk was put into that position by the violence perpetrated by the “agent” trying to force their way into her car.

      The “agent” at risk, the shooter, had his weapon unnecessarily drawn and aimed at her face. The threat to his person passed once he cleared her vehicle, but he chose to shoot unrestrained and recklessly anyway.

      She was leaving as they wanted. They got angry with her. She didn’t comply, so they responded with violence.

      The murderer accomplished no good with his actions. He did not save his own life or anyone else’s because there was no danger once he cleared the path of the vehicle. There was nothing to defend.

      She didn’t have to die.

      He did not have to murder her.

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          I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you don’t understand what the words “offensive maneuver” mean.

          She was not attacking them. She was clearly trying to leave when an officer violently tried to forcefully remove her from her car.

          Fleeing the scene, even when committing was a crime, is not enough to justify deadly force.

          There’s plenty of court cases to look up if you’re uncertain how the American law system works. But I suspect this isn’t something you actually care about.

          Their lives were not threatened.

          She didn’t have to die.

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                Thanks for this final comment. There really isn’t anything further to say to the person or bot or whatever it is.

                They don’t understand how and when deadly force is actually authorized. The US, as bad as it as it today, isn’t a country like Afghanistan. Contrary to all the attempts to change that, it’s not how things work there (or at least generally).

                I wish the US the best, because things there have become such a mess. This is a huge travesty I can only hope justice ultimately prevails.

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      wise words from a checks profile 24 hour old account.

      go crawl back into whatever methhole you crawled out of.

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      all right so if you’re going to try to say bullshit like that, at least don’t say obvious lies