• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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    You might want to invest in a dictionary in case you decide to open your mouth and shit out something this stupid in the future.

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      a strong complaint expressing disagreement, disapproval, or opposition:

      • make a protest - Protests have been made by many people who would be affected by the proposed changes.

      • protest about - A formal protest was made by the German team about their disqualification from the relay final.

      • protest against - Conservation groups have united in protest against the planned new road.

      • in protest - Several members walked out of the meeting in protest.

      See Also: peaceful protest


      Instigating an armed conflict is a protest as much as surgery is a dialogue. That said, I think some armed resistance to the ICE would be warranted, but let’s not pretend words can mean whatever you want them to.

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          I am always extremely pedantic.

          Violence is not a complaint or in any way a form of legitimate dialogue.

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              I suppose if you ignore every logical step then you can claim its definition is whatever you want.

              We should come up with a word for this. How about an Ig-No Rant? You’re being Ig-no rant.

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            that’s just your opinion

            also let’s just be clear here, it is not “violence” (in the sense that you seem to be using it) to protect yourself against violence instigated by others

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            How did the French revolution go, again? One big ole peaceful protest, right?

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              You’re arguing against your own position. Or ARE you trying to say that the violent revolution was also a “protest”??

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              The French started by uniting the people and bankrupting the state, so I reccomend you start there as well, because if you go into a war with a minority of the public to support you then you’re going to wind up less like the French and more like the Spaniards.

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        the moment you say protests instigate violence by the perpetrator already invalidates your argument. you should really stop using conservative talking and buzzwords, its not very intelligent conversation.

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          Conservatives where you live talk about holding Peaceful Protests? Conservatives are talking about ways to oppose the ICE and the larger Trump admin? Really? That’s some weird fucking conservatism, my dude.

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        Do you need me to point out that nowhere does it say “if you are armed its not a protest” or can we all just agree that your previous statement was full of shit and that you will remember this definition in the future?

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            Self-defense is not a threat, and fuck you for trying to pretend otherwise.

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              I see we have some Kyle Rittenhouse fans in the comments here.

              If you bring your gun out to the streets and use it to intimidate people, that is not self-defence.

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                Lmao we should just keep letting them blast us in the face and not defend ourselves, yeah?

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                  We should gain majority support to punish these criminals. Starting a war in the street will not accomplish that.

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                    Armed protesters don’t get shot.

                    No ss tool will dare die for a paycheck, they currently have the monopoly of force and will continue to use it until that force is challenged. You know why every oppressive regime disarms the populous? It’s not because they’re trying to protect them.

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                Quit lying, you disgusting piece of shit!

                You are a libelous motherfucking troll and need to be banned.

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            I see that I was wrong to assume that you were ignorant instead of just too stupid to participate in a discussion. That is on my. Bye.

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        I mean, being armed doesn’t necessarily need to mean you are showing up to be violent. If you bring a firearm to a peaceful protest, with right to carry, and you partake in the peaceful protest, peacefully so, then ICE starts illegally opening fire at you, you should be able to defend yourself.

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          I think being armed with a non-concealed firearm is explicitly a threat. I think it’s a tactic used egregiously by our enemies and I don’t think it’s particularly effective. I don’t think the ICE is worried that killing you in cold blood is illegal, they generally don’t follow the laws in the first place.

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            I would assume you would bring a concealed weapon to a peaceful protest for the purpose of self-defense. 😄

            Bring a rifle and slinging it on your back would definitely be a provocation/instigation lol

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              The other user(s) in this comment section is saying they want everyone to bring rifles. For all I know it’s all just Deceptichum’s alt accounts, maybe a couple Russian trolls, but I’m arguing with those people about a completely different subject than what you’re talking about.

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                Alright. I think you and I mostly agree around our topic though, I guess.

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        If protest is by definition peaceful, why then do we need to clarify by declaring something as “peaceful protest”?

        For someone obsessed with the meaning of words, you don’t seem to put much effort into understanding them.

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          We need to clarify because Fox News is constantly trying to classify all protests as Riots. Sometimes, protests do change into something else, they stop being peaceful, but the vast majority are not that.

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            The term “peaceful protest” massively predates Fox News. We were using the term in the ‘60s, and Fox News was only founded in 1996.

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              That’s fair there are also other people we need to clarify these things to due to the widespread implication otherwise.

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        The fact you have to put the word “peaceful” in front of “protest” to differentiate it from other types of protest already invalidates your attestment that the word “protest” implies peaceful means.

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          “Peaceful” is necessitated by the many many many false claims that a protest is anything but.

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            You kmow why there are many, many claims that protest can be violent?

            Becsuse it can be. 🤦‍♂️

            I guess those Buddhists that set themselves on fire in protest is peaceful because they didn’t set others on fire? Despite suicide also being a violent act?