Sometimes the time travel confuse me, in this case, the new Borg queen pretend to create a new collective, now, the third season Borg queen is the old one, right?

So, what happend with one and the other collective? The new one affected the other one?

Edit: I add an spoiler warning in the title.

  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    1 day ago

    Spoilers galore for PIC

    spoiler

    They created a spin-off Borgs collective with one of the main characters from S1 as the queen. They were powerful but looked to cooperate with Starfleet to deal with a big space anomaly. And the season ends and nobody really knows what’s up. Are they now the only Borgs? Is this a hard reset and it was all a dream? There are some timeline shenanigans that could explain away everything.

    And then S3 happens and we eventually find out the OG queen is hiding and masterminding a new plan that isn’t sending one cube to earth for a change. I think they never even question how the S2 Borgs fit into this. It is as though they never existed. What’s worse, they seemed to imply this old queen is the one Picard and Data defeated in First Contact and not the one that Janeway dealt with after that.

    Swiss cheese is remarkably dense compared to the story PIC tells.

    And it’s Star Trek. They will always find a way to expand on the Klingons. They’ll find a way to bring back the Borgs if they want to. What did the Burn do to whatever was left of them? That’s not an uninteresting question if you ask me. Their STSA-current facebook status? It’s complicated.

    • bgainor@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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      10 hours ago

      My impression is that the S3 Borg Collective/queen are the same ones from First Contact and Voyager. AFAICT the queen can exist in different bodies, which is why she was sometimes played by Alice Krige (in First Contact, “Endgame” and Picard) and sometimes Susanna Thompson (other Voyager eps). My impression for why she’s in such bad shape in Picard S3 is that it’s a direct result of what Janeway/future Janeway did in “Endgame”. So after Picard is over, I believe that original prime-timeline collective is extinct (barring any time travel shenanigans ofc), but the gentler kinder collective (which is led by the merger of Annie Wersching’s alternate timeline queen and Dr. Jurati) may very well still be around in the 32nd century.