Nice but it’s kinda wierd how people decided to use these browsers after this new law was passed, I mean it’s so easy to install apps on smartphones right now but people needed this choice screen to choose another browser of their liking? I would guess it’s probably old people that switched that didn’t know how to install browser without it, I googled but couldn’t find any prove of this tho so it’s just my guts
We tend to overestimate people’s skill in tech. The average user uses what came installed, doesn’t like installing and experimenting apps, uses a browser while logged in to google, taps yes on everything, will install apps when sites ask for it, without even noticing, and will register in every site or app that asks for it, and even give their real email, name, etc
And there are probably many users that do all of this due to being afraid that things might just start breaking, or that more actions they don’t understand will be required to keep the system rolling, if they stray from this path for even a little.
Yeah, there is a very large part of society that tends to default to “if I change anything, I’ll probably break it. It works now, so I won’t change anything.” It likely has a lot of overlap with the “you touched my computer eight months ago, and it stopped working yesterday. Whatever you changed must have broken it” population; anyone who has become the de facto family tech support will know exactly who I am talking about.
It’s laziness. Most people just take the path of the least resistance.
Once you show them the screen, any choice is the same amount of work so they will select what they really want. But without the screen, 90% of people will be good enough with the default option. Or, they might even be mildly uncomfortable with that option, but not enough to do something about it.
I didn’t say it’s a bad thing. If someone tried to pay attention to every little choice they make, they would be exhausted before the morning coffee.
What kind of browser I use is important to me, since I am a geek. But I don’t pay attention to many things that more socially adept people would consider important.
Rather, the trick is to figure out what is important for you individually and learn to not care for the opinions of others thst go past factual decision making information.
some things are worth your time and some things are not, you yourself decide what is what. You just have to know what is important to you and consider things that affect that. And to also know what things are not worth giving a fuck. The capitalist society also trys to make you care about worthless things so those too will fill up your attention.
So in essence, if something isnt important to you and not caring about it doesnt make your life more difficult, let that thing go.
Yeah I guess people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech, it’s so normalized today, in my university (I am a student) when I tell people I don’t use Instagram or TikTok and whatnot they look at me like I am crazy, tbh maybe if we define crazy as “not doing what everyone around you does” maybe I am
people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech
I was one of those people some time ago. I remember doing it deliberately and saying “what will they do to me? Offer me a product that better suits my needs?”
I never had any issues because of that…
right now I decline each time, the more work it costs me, the more motivated I am to decline every single marketing consent.
I do it out of spite, because of all the enshitification happening to services I used to like, and I just try to make their life harder.
I really hope that Google will, some day, miss one cent needed for some huge multi billion deal thanks to my resistance! ;)
If people are going to talk about the details of their divorce in a tiktok video I doubt they care much that someone is tracking what products they looked at on amazon.
i’ve legit seen many people who have no idea what a web browser is, internet == chrome/safari/edge (which opens automatically when clicking a link on some app) for them. this isn’t just older people, actually it’s usually worse with younger people.
It isn’t that weird. Users have a very low tolerance for independence, especially as tech markets itself to less and less tech savvy userbases(like Gen alpha and z). They do what their screens tell them to for the most part.
If something is good enough to do what you want you have no real motivation to change. People posting here are far more concerned about privacy than most people based on how much people seem to voluntarily share online anyway.
Nice but it’s kinda wierd how people decided to use these browsers after this new law was passed, I mean it’s so easy to install apps on smartphones right now but people needed this choice screen to choose another browser of their liking? I would guess it’s probably old people that switched that didn’t know how to install browser without it, I googled but couldn’t find any prove of this tho so it’s just my guts
We tend to overestimate people’s skill in tech. The average user uses what came installed, doesn’t like installing and experimenting apps, uses a browser while logged in to google, taps yes on everything, will install apps when sites ask for it, without even noticing, and will register in every site or app that asks for it, and even give their real email, name, etc
And there are probably many users that do all of this due to being afraid that things might just start breaking, or that more actions they don’t understand will be required to keep the system rolling, if they stray from this path for even a little.
Yeah, there is a very large part of society that tends to default to “if I change anything, I’ll probably break it. It works now, so I won’t change anything.” It likely has a lot of overlap with the “you touched my computer eight months ago, and it stopped working yesterday. Whatever you changed must have broken it” population; anyone who has become the de facto family tech support will know exactly who I am talking about.
It’s laziness. Most people just take the path of the least resistance.
Once you show them the screen, any choice is the same amount of work so they will select what they really want. But without the screen, 90% of people will be good enough with the default option. Or, they might even be mildly uncomfortable with that option, but not enough to do something about it.
we all do in many parts of life
I didn’t say it’s a bad thing. If someone tried to pay attention to every little choice they make, they would be exhausted before the morning coffee.
What kind of browser I use is important to me, since I am a geek. But I don’t pay attention to many things that more socially adept people would consider important.
the trick is to know what is worth paying attention to and what is not
Rather, the trick is to figure out what is important for you individually and learn to not care for the opinions of others thst go past factual decision making information.
How do?
some things are worth your time and some things are not, you yourself decide what is what. You just have to know what is important to you and consider things that affect that. And to also know what things are not worth giving a fuck. The capitalist society also trys to make you care about worthless things so those too will fill up your attention.
So in essence, if something isnt important to you and not caring about it doesnt make your life more difficult, let that thing go.
Story of my life.
same
Yeah I guess people doesn’t really care all that much about giving information to big tech, it’s so normalized today, in my university (I am a student) when I tell people I don’t use Instagram or TikTok and whatnot they look at me like I am crazy, tbh maybe if we define crazy as “not doing what everyone around you does” maybe I am
I was one of those people some time ago. I remember doing it deliberately and saying “what will they do to me? Offer me a product that better suits my needs?”
I never had any issues because of that…
right now I decline each time, the more work it costs me, the more motivated I am to decline every single marketing consent.
I do it out of spite, because of all the enshitification happening to services I used to like, and I just try to make their life harder.
I really hope that Google will, some day, miss one cent needed for some huge multi billion deal thanks to my resistance! ;)
not all heroes wear capes
To be fair, we haven’t had all the consequences of it hit the population yet.
Surveillance pricing might change the narrative
oh don’t you worry, it won’t. Because those who refuse the surveillance will face the highest prices.
recently I bought something in a shop I rarely go to. plenty of things they sold for two times the price if you didn’t have a member card.
If people are going to talk about the details of their divorce in a tiktok video I doubt they care much that someone is tracking what products they looked at on amazon.
Providing choice as a default is precisely about people who are influenced by defaults. It’s NOT about how feasible something technically is.
It’s like browser war 1.0 all over again but only on mobile…
(Microsoft had to do the exact same thing after they preinstalled Internet Explorer with Windows)
i’ve legit seen many people who have no idea what a web browser is, internet == chrome/safari/edge (which opens automatically when clicking a link on some app) for them. this isn’t just older people, actually it’s usually worse with younger people.
It isn’t that weird. Users have a very low tolerance for independence, especially as tech markets itself to less and less tech savvy userbases(like Gen alpha and z). They do what their screens tell them to for the most part.
As a gen Z who started with Linux with 12, daily driven it since 14 and dipped into Gentoo and arch at 15, I feel offended
We’re both on a Lemmy instance, neither of us represent our generations.
Autistic children will be discluded from the study for skewing results.
Lol thanks for the good chuckle.
Meet my wife! Since this screen, she uses the duckduckgo browser (iOS) Idk why, she neither, but she is happy with it.
If i want the internet, I tap on the little internet app. Wth is a browser?
How am I going to get to the internet without AOL?
Chrome disabling ad-blocking doesn’t hurt either.
i’m sure more people would install brave now they know about how great it is
I’m sure more people would delete Brave if they started to apply the same standards they do for Firefox
Oh, you should just disable the rewards the cryptowallet the ads on the homepage and ignore all the nonsense they did in the past, then it’s greaaaaat
If something is good enough to do what you want you have no real motivation to change. People posting here are far more concerned about privacy than most people based on how much people seem to voluntarily share online anyway.