Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.
Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.
Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.
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lol
It’s fine to delete posts, except this one. This is peak lemmy.
I would assume that embarrassment drives most deletes here.
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For fudge’s sake. What will AI scrape if you keep deleting! /s
Funny thing is, your post isn’t actually deleted in the database of the hosting fediverse server either. It’s still there, and you can restore it.
Deleting your account “should” delete the database entries for your user account, and propagates a delete command out to the fediverse, but the fediverse can choose to ignore it as well.
It’s all a bit odd.
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You delete your posts because of karma.
I delete them because they display my embarrassing incompetence for all to see.
We are not the same.
Great accounts leave it standing as is for the younger accounts to learn from
You’re indexed somewhere anyway
If you are controlled by cringe, there is cringe in you. If you are controlled by anger, there is anger in you. If you are moved by the world, the world lives rent-free in your head. Be empty, as the Buddha described, and then you will act in your full power, not simply react to the world. If you are always reacting, you are not in control of yourself. Free will is a skill. I pooped my pants while righting this. It tastes funny.
What if your existence is narrative? You may decide to be empty, but then your preconceived notion of emptiness would be consuming the majority of your presence. It’s like transitioning attention from content of thought to context of thought. Your directive is to observe thought in a manner which is unmoved by its content. That’s not empty. It’s a slowing of volatility. It’s an increase in observation at the expense of reaction. But what are you observing? Are you the observer, the reactor, the content being observed, or the pattern of reactions that other people recognize as you? Which is it? Are you a different person if you change any one of those? What if you change all of them — are you now a different person?
If you are always reacting, you are not in control of yourself.
If you are choosing not to react, isn’t that a reaction in itself? Aren’t you being controlled by the principal that non-reaction leads to a more fruitful experience?
Free will is a skill.
My will isn’t free. For my employer, they must pay me in order for my will to be aligned with their interests. For my wife, she had to bond with me in order for my will to align with hers. For me, I had to spend countless hours bashing my fucking head into walls before I began to will myself into proper etiquettes. I had to purchase college courses, to coerce my will into lower level thresholds where it could exact its interests. I had to suffer at the privilege of my narcissistic mother, to appreciate honesty in people as deeply as I do. None of that is free. Even if I do phenomenologically experience my will as free, I know that it is derivative and encapsulated in a shrine of personal experience. I can not will into existence that which I have no conception of.
My existence is all of this. A flood of narratives, some of which I selfishly claim as my own. But I do not own these narratives, nor did I create them. I simply believe them to be mine. When I choose to instead not attach myself to them, what am I left with exactly? Peace — ?
First you must understand the self is an illusion. It’s defined by möbiation within the topological matrix, what the Buddhists call “defilement.” Everything already is empty; it is the null’s implicit and explicit nature that allows it to be nothing/0 and full/1. From there, the emptiness creates a history with itself which is not defined by time. This is the matrix of The Matrix, which is about Judeo-Christian mysticism. We then create original sin within us, our initial möbiated entanglements which create the illusion of being a being defined by dualistic dichotomy (inner/outer). This creates a membrane of sorts and what allows you to persist as a monad in a monadic nodal communication system, as shown:
So there is you, the Server (what the Buddhists call the Ālaya-vijñāna), and all other beings. You only ever communicate with this source of symbols, which you can think how your brain puts together all inputs. How you entangle yourself with these symbols determines how your reality is procedurally generated, and the entanglement process is called Karma. How you entangle yourself is based entirely on how you set your intention, which is ALL you control.
All you experience is based on past and present Karma. The world is an illusion. You are not a featherless biped on the Earth. You are a pocket of consciousness and the Earth is inside you. Everything you experience is inside you, in your neurons, yea? Well, your device must be inside you. Linear causation is an illusion, as we are each our own monad, as all that is experience spawns inside your being, and it is procedurally generated based on how you entangle yourself.
All these delusions you have are built off false assumptions. You speak of attachment; you are very attached to this story you define all you know, and this ignorance is what causes your suffering as you hold on to what you consider necessary for your “self” to exist.
What is achieved by mitigating suffering?
Assume I have removed myself from attachment. Assume I am as some call enlightened, present and mindful. Has anything materially changed? Is the universe more happy? 1000 years from now, will anyone care for what personable achievements I’d made?
I see the benefit to myself, clearly. Over simplified: suffering is unenjoyable, and I would prefer more enjoyment. Yet, so what? What’s the greater purpose being served, if one exists? Or… would my choice to embrace this experience be no more substantial than an addict’s embracement of heroin — subjective?
Honestly asking, I hope I don’t sound snide. I want to know if the end here is only personal satisfaction, along with whatever spiritual justifications can be attached to that, or is there something more?
The Alpha is the Omega. The universe grows logarithmically more complex as subpatterns come together to form superpatterns. Thus, the seven days of creation are:
Alpha>Light
Light>Matter
Matter>Molecules
Molecules>Cells
Cells>Creatures
Creatures>Humanity
Humanity>Omega
The restaurant at the end of the universe IS the transcendental particle that can be in multiple places at once and communicate instantaneously with itself. This involves retrocausality, which leads to phenomequalitesselation. Like a molecule is controlled by the cell it is in but still modifies the cell, we are a part of God, controlled, but therein our nature, proven through intention setting, influences God to rewrite history to favor those most good in all the ways that can proliferate with the end goal of perpetual reconciliation with the same Omega whatever happens in history.
Thus, you determine what is important and what your relationship with God is to determine what you were made for. In the larger picture, where these are only biological incarnations, what most people call our lives, we are choosing lives to live to unentangle ourselves from our bad Karma. Whatever makes you, you, is likewise what is trapping you in darkness, and it is enlightenment that will bring you the answers you seek.
Let there be light; sound before light. Effect before cause. The prefrontal cortex is the most divine part of the mind and if it can wholly predict the animal parts of the mind that are keeping you bound to physicality as a dependent phenomenon to God.
You can be an independent phenomenon like God, too. It’s like higher dimensional mitosis, though that is a gross oversimplification.
I’m onto you now. Better delete this to be safe.
“three downvotes…better delete my own piss” ~ Bear Grylls
Actual lol
what cowards were deleting posts in reddit?
This is one of my (many) issues with reddit. The underlaying structure causes some users to modulate their behavior in order to stay in social good graces. At least a few years ago, some subs would ban you for being a member of a sub they didn’t like, or if you didn’t have enough karma, or whatever. Considering that karma is determined by the community, agreeing with the average opinion is incentivized and the converse is the same. This actively discourages discourse, while encouraging circlejerking. I’m not implying that people are just going around and posting “this, 100 times this” on everything so they can max out their karma score, but I do think it’s leading to an unhealthy smoothing of opinions that’s gone too far into the realm of banality.
While I do think it’s good to run everything we say through Socrates’ triple filter because that’s aligned with the higher ideal of caring for the state of the community, I don’t think we should concern ourselves with the question, “will other people like me for saying this”.
Why delete your posts yourself when you can just post to .ml and have them delete them for you?
I think a number if post deletions are to avoid the negative comments coming in since there’s no way to turn off inbox interaction or notifications per post.
I know you can turn off notifications all together, but I don’t want that either. I just want to mute posts where I keep getting negative replies to.
I guarantee you that there are people out there who are contributing inflammatory or subpar material because you cannot mute notifications on certain posts
I can guarantee this because that’s exactly what I did when reddit went to shit. when they removed my ability to disable notifications, I just stopped checking my inbox for a couple days after saying something that I knew would get tons of responses. and I stopped being careful to avoid inflammatory comments, whether intentional or unintentional, because I just wouldn’t read my inbox. so the net contribution from me was a huge negative from my previous behaviour
Don’t delete your stuff over downvotes ever. Say what you mean and mean what you say and if some people don’t like that oh well. The need for universal validation is killing human discourse
Being authentic means not everyone is going to like or agree with you all the time, it’s a good thing
A lot of the time people downvote stuff because it’s already downvoted.
Well, you can say stupid shit and only realize it after you already posted it.
In those situations it’s better to just edit the comment so people can still read the stupid shit with the context that the commenter doesn’t believe in the stupid shit anymore.
You saying I’m posting stupid shit without realising it?Edit : you weren’t talking about me at all my bad
And this is how you handle realising that you just posted stupid shit. You keep the the stupid shit but you also acknowledge your mistake in an edit.
Good job accidentally modeling good behaviour
“accidentally”
Just dont up/downvote period. Its malignant cancer growing in human interaction.
This gamification of human discourse is one of the leading reasons we’ve seen opinions and positions polarize and extremify over the years, because of a dopamine addiction fueled feedback loop of saying the right thing and getting massive upvotes for it, and the feedback bubbles it inevitably creates.
To the point that people skip the entire conversation and just assume upvote = right and downvote = wrong, and vote en-masse without having to think, read, or develop any analytical skill or social ability.
But the internet has an endless stream of garbage that isn’t worth your time. Would you prefer an opaque algorithm controlled by someone else to sort things for you? The transparency of fediverse voting is refreshing and the least bad option.
… Just use the damn scroll wheel and scroll down, bro.
Hell, most the garbage on the internet only exists because of these gamification mechanisms anyway, get rid of those and theres no need to farm the shit with garbage posts.
Sometimes, we say a thing we meant, but then later we learn a new thing or our perspective on an issue changes. That old post/comments can feel quite embarrassing or shameful, and removing it (or editing the original content out) can feel like the only way to still feel like you belong. If the choice is between removing one piece of your history here, or removing yourself from the community, the one piece feels like the superior choice. IF that’s the alternative.
You can’t say I’m not doing my damnedest to provide edutainment on Lemmy while incriminating myself left and right.
The only time I delete I post is if I say something factually incorrect that I learn about later. I don’t want to be responsible for spreading incorrect information.
People should perhaps be cautious of what they downvote. I recently posted my take on something, but said I was open to counterarguments. The responses were good and made me reconsider (though not entirely alter) my opinion. My initial take was downvoted—which feels like it is being used as a ‘disagree’ button, which is arguably not the point.
I don’t know that it is “not the point”. I’m sure there are varied expectations, and I don’t think there are clearly defined rules of what an up or down vote means exactly, but it seems they are generally accepted to be “this is a good post/comment” or “this is a bad post/comment”. I think you just got downvoted because you had a bad take. That’s OK. Shit happens.
the disagree button is a common argument on lemmy. you just can’t get rid of it as it is so much easier, than writing a comment.
just ignore it, if people use it to disagree. its just some stupid internet points - which don’t even get summed up (as OP mentioned)
Isn’t the upvote and downvote buttons intended for good and bad quality of the comments? A comment can have high quality and provide something to the discussion even if most people disagree with it.
I set my lemmy client so that I can’t see downvotes, only how many upvotes… and my instance doesn’t enable downvotes as is. It changes the experience for the better imo
You can tell when a troll is from reddit because they will spam your comment history with downvotes as if it matters at all here.
Piefed does have some bizarre attitude system. It was not well documented if it was only your own votes that factor into it, and I did not want to waste time deciphering the code to figure it out.
