• Ardha@lemmy.world
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    Yeah giving away the weakness of all our equipments iranians hurt to china is such a huge deterrant bruv

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        Is that the person who publishes the Epoch times in Canada? Or is it the Falun gong nut cases? Someone entirely different who I havent heard of yet? Please I need to know what propaganda machine published this.

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      Not an idiot they are an intelligence asset. When all the evidence shows America couldn’t have and isn’t winning the war, anyone pushing the war agenda isn’t just a retard they are probably knowingly pushing the psyop. Any blue check claiming America has done anything but blunder this entire conflict probably gets paid by the CIA

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they’re the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they’re building tons of housing to handle population growth. they’re financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?

    no? just wars again? okay.

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        I’m not sure how many US imperial troops died, but they did lose a good amount of aircraft:

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          So glad that American’s voted for the “No more wars” president while hoping for a better cost of living.

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            The US is not a democracy, its a one-party capitalist empire, and even its controlled opposition wing wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time. The democrats under Biden also massively increased funding to Israel to help destroy palestine:

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          Ehh I’d argue that money was already lost down the black hole of defense spending.

          Looking forward to seeing how they’ll pay for the replacements

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    The US is basically a “this is good for bitcoin”, but as a country.

    Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain’s.

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    It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, “We had to show them we were the boss”.

    From AI to A-bombs, there’s nothing you can’t get away with by insisting “China Bad! This will stop them!”

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      It’s a very convenient go-to excuse. And as long as the American public keeps lapping it up, those in power will keep counting on it.

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        And not even the country’s, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them

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    I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they’re only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.

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      Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.

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      Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it’s these two ideas that have taken over discourse.

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        I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.

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        Really depends on the debate club, there are plenty in conservative areas that are basically just right-wing influencer spawning grounds

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    I’d put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there’s been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don’t know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.

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        Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.

        lol the downvote. Did those governments that no longer exist actually win the wars that caused them to cease existing?

        *this doesn’t mean they were good or justified. If anyone thinks I implied or said that you need to learn how to read.

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            1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.

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              Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?

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                You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.

                Also it’s not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.

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                  Uhh no, I’m saying they didn’t win the war because they couldn’t meet their stated goals, I wouldn’t trust that country as far as I could throw it.

                  My bad for assuming, btw.

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            Do you think Saddam won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.

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                Ok so you can’t win a war if it wasn’t clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.

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                  Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.

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      An open conflict between the US and china would probably end with exactly zero winners and an uninhabitable glowing piece of rock orbiting the sun. Maybe the cockroaches can then find a better path to communism.

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        I feel like nukes are more just showpieces than item that anyone actually considers using.

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          Japan used to think that too

          Honestly i don’t think you are completely wrong. Most of the reason for having massive nuclear weapon inventory comes as a mean to dissuasion. However that doesn’t necessarily mean they will never be used, just suggests it would not be like the apocalyptic war everyone thinks.

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            If Japan did think that, they thought it before several other countries in the world had nukes. I think any country has the ability to see that if they send nukes then they will be receiving nukes back to destroy them in about a few hours.

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    How can people be so delusional?

    “When their salary depends on it” is a decent first answer.

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    China couldn’t give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
    Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route’s total volume.
    That is why they had their own blockade.