Ignoring EFF’s warnings about the dangers and impossibility of implementing a new mandate for 3D print surveillance software, the California State Assembly has signed off on legislation to do just that. In the process, legislators amended the bill to make it even more confusing, while failing to address the risks to privacy, speech, and consumer rights. We must renew our call on legislators to drop this bill as it heads to the state senate, and protect the tools of creators in the state.
You can buy whole kits to build your own, the capacity to control what is made with the is about as much as if you tried to ban someone with a table saw from building a birdhouse.
Oh nothing to worry about then? Fuck you, we need to fight back against every infringement of our rights, it has nothing to do with how effective the law will be but that the law is WRONG.
Jesus christ when will we stop doing this?
Thats a perfectly succinct analogy.
Pretty sure you could make a gun too, which is the point of this 3D printer thing
And like what about other CNC machines?
I like that California is on the frontier of many tech laws, but this and the age thing are particularly dumb lately
I made an AR15 with a hobby drill press from Lowes at work. Give me a hunk of metal, a micrometer and a file and I can make you a gun.
Or worse.
And that is illegal, as it should be. The efficacy of a law has nothing to do with whether it’s moral.
It’s like saying “we don’t have the manpower to police murder effectively, so we are gonna legalize murder”. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what the law is fucking for.
No its not illegal:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms
You can’t make a machine gun or other items on the NFA list though.
A homemade AR15 is completely legal to be made at the federal level.
The rest of your comment is off base.
I’m pretty sure that’s already illegal in CA
I think at this point it easier to list what isn’t illegal in California.
Are the laws sound and moral? That’s the only important metric, it doesn’t matter how many laws you have. It’s not like you go, oh shit, we have to keep it under a hundred thousand so now we can’t make new laws around AI data centers because that’s just too many!
lol you again, who decides whats “moral”?
And WTF are you bringing data centers into a post about 3D printing and California’s draconian laws?
Neat, I would’ve assumed you’d need a mill or a lathe, not just a drill press. Kinda want to know how to do it myself, since I own the former but not either of the latter.
It won’t be accurate or be a long baller w/o a lathe to make a rifled barrel. Not that you couldn’t mke a barrel with hand tools, it just would be very difficult.
And like others have said, only the lower receiver is the controlled item. You goto Brownels and can buy 98% of an AR w/o a background check.
The upper reciever is the load bearing part on an Armalite, but it’s also not the regulated part. The lower receiver is, and all you need for that is a box that holds the trigger components in vaguely the right place, a hole that lines up the magazine, a hole to stick the buffer tube into at the back, and some way to nail the upper receiver to it.
You could carve an AR lower out of wood if you were dedicated enough.
Guess I ought to go find a set of machining schematics.
If you’re near me I’ll loan you the gig, the end mills,and support to make an AR lower in about 2 hours.
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Please explain how I can “do literally anything productive with my life” when I’m murdered by MAGA fascists because I had no means to defend myself.
Shovel AK is a thing too. There are stencils out there for it.
Gah how can I forget about the shovel AK???
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lol ok…
Nobody tell California about a nail combined with certain diameters of pipe, because guess what, those can become guns too.
And that is illegal and you’ll rightly spend a lot of time in jail for doing that, shit you can go to prison for suggesting it.
zip guns, lets bring in slam fired shotguns.
Never doubt the ingenuity of man killing other men.
Thank god we have laws prohibiting and enforcing it then.
No we don’t, check the ppost with this link
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/privately-made-firearms
I can make guns all day long and you can’t do anything about it.
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Pipe bombs are not exactly uncommon. Most of those are exactly that. Pipe and nails, packed with homemade explosives.
If I’m not mistaken, this DOES cover ALL manufacturing devices, and if it doesn’t, it will in the future
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This isn’t gun control though. It’s surveillance.
Yeah I’ve lived in CA for about 10 years now and have loved it, but the new laws they are passing are making it extremely likely that I’ll be moving soon. Especially with tje fact that we are either getting either Becerra who’s in Big AI and Big Oils pocket.
Or just go to a bordering state, buy one, and come back
Printer manufacturers won’t make state-specific versions of printers. This is going to screw all of us.
Likely not even country specific ones.
This is the USA screwing the world (again)
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Actually ammo reloaded at home shoots better than factory ammo this is a known occurance. And guns put together with kits usually shoot better and have less problems than mass produced factory ones.
Guns aren’t really that difficult to make. Hell that Japanese guy shot Shinto Abe with a gun he made himself although bit of a different thing because it used a battery to ignite the gunpowder but still the same idea.
Making guns isn’t hard to do.
3d printed ones are a joke though. You can only use them a few times before they become even more dangerous and unpredictable. Anyone who wanted to use an actual firearm would never use a 3d printed gun.
Maybe one of those 200K metal 3d printers or whatever. But at that point it would be easier to machine the parts yourself out of metal. It really isn’t as difficult as you seem to think it is to do that.
If they wanted gun control (which California already has a bit more of than other States) then they could pass a law doing that. This is 100% a surveillance law.
Tell me you know nothing about metalworking and firearms, without telling me you know nothing about metalworking and firearms.
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