• GutterRat42@lemmy.world
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    26 minutes ago

    Since most braking systems are still mechanical, I am guessing they want to get rid of the mechanical part to more easily eliminate targets once they hack all the vehicles a la Upload

  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Even if a system that actually performed well in a 100% autonomous mode was available, how is having manual override for safety actions like braking a bad thing? Why would you ever remove that? Removing it provides zero benefit whatsoever.

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      I’m a sane world, removing the brake pedal (etc) would only occur after extended disuse. When the technology is mature enough and so reliable that it’s a wasted feature that never gets used, and hasn’t been used in a long time.

      Not when the technology is brand new and this is something still needed on a regular basis.

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      If nobody is in the driver’s seat, then it doesn’t matter if the brake pedal exists. If someone does happen to be sitting there, but isn’t paying attention to driving, they might accidentally hit it. And it would be in the way most (hopefully all) of the time.

      Sounds like this doesn’t include it, but I think it would be better to have some centrally accessible thing to manually activate the brakes. Then you could do it regardless of where you sat.

    • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
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      6 hours ago

      To be fair, it says brake pedal - there are other possible means of activating a brake such as an old school emergency brake lever.

      The “benefit” is, of course, money saved for their own pockets.

      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Removes requirements for hand- or foot-operated brake controls for vehicles designed never to be operated by a human

        No this would remove requirements even for emergency/hand brake.

      • atrielienz@lemmy.world
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        The brake lever is a parking brake. It’s usually (in older cars that don’t have an electronic park brake) a cable actuation of the brake meant to keep your car from rolling away if the parking pawl fails. It’s not the same as the hydraulic braking you’d do with a pedal (and what you’d want in the event of an emergency braking situation). Getting rid of it is beyond foolish.

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      There should be a mechanical override emergency brake. However it need not be a pedal. The typical use should be the mechanic verifying it works at the yearly inspection

    • adarza@piefed.ca
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      3 hours ago

      it’s so much easier to just send the command over the always-on cellular link.