healthy at any size is less about “you don’t have to care about your body” and more about “starving yourself isn’t necessary for you to be happy”, and this isn’t an example of it. remember that the movement took shape as a reaction to the fashion of the late aughts, where everything above visible ribs was “plus size”. it ignored that every body has a different shape and focused entirely on the skinny look.
starving yourself leads to nutrient imbalance, which not only hurts your internal organs but usually leads to gaining back all of the weight. what’s needed is careful monitoring of calorie and nutrient intake over a longer period. losing more than 1kg a week is considered unhealthy.
I’ve come across people who are (and I’m using the word very intentionally here) proudly obese, often morbidly so. In point of fact, my grandmother was; she simply didn’t see it as a problem.
That whole mentality, to me, has pretty strong echoes of the idiotic dogmatic shit the hard right gets into (read: ivermectin, bleach, antivax/autism fearmongering, etc). It’s not admirable that you look like that if you are super fat. You’re not attractive, and you’re definitely not healthy. I am not advocating for shaming - clearly it’s a healthcare matter that should be addressed by the person’s healthcare providers - but reveling in a deeply unhealthy body state is completely unhinged for more than a few reasons.
I’m relatively confident I’ll be downvoted aggressively for saying that, but whatever.
Especially when other health conditions make weight control difficult or impossible. Any size person is a real person that can have just as shit opinions as the rest of us.
How about, “it’s not socially acceptable to mock, or otherwise comment on others physical form unless invited to do so by that person.”
But that makes for poor sound bite/click bait.
The body positive movement for the overweight was a reaction to a long tradition of a large number of people just thinking it’s ok to openly mock “fat people” because “it’s their fault for being lazy and ugly, and we should just tell them all the time in case they don’t already know, also it’s funny and makes me feel better about my own personal failures that are less outwardly obvious”. But you probably know that already.
well no, health also factors into it. being under your “ideal” weight is unhealthy, and that’s what that lead to. of course your ideal weight shifts with things like muscle mass, so they challenged the idea that skinny equals healthy.
healthy at any size is less about “you don’t have to care about your body” and more about “starving yourself isn’t necessary for you to be happy”, and this isn’t an example of it. remember that the movement took shape as a reaction to the fashion of the late aughts, where everything above visible ribs was “plus size”. it ignored that every body has a different shape and focused entirely on the skinny look.
For this case, starving yourself is imperative for a better quality (and quantity) of life.
starving yourself leads to nutrient imbalance, which not only hurts your internal organs but usually leads to gaining back all of the weight. what’s needed is careful monitoring of calorie and nutrient intake over a longer period. losing more than 1kg a week is considered unhealthy.
It should be dignity at any size. Heart disease and diabetes are not healthy. Dignity as a person and deserving of compassion, not ridicule? Yes.
Well… yes and no.
I’ve come across people who are (and I’m using the word very intentionally here) proudly obese, often morbidly so. In point of fact, my grandmother was; she simply didn’t see it as a problem.
That whole mentality, to me, has pretty strong echoes of the idiotic dogmatic shit the hard right gets into (read: ivermectin, bleach, antivax/autism fearmongering, etc). It’s not admirable that you look like that if you are super fat. You’re not attractive, and you’re definitely not healthy. I am not advocating for shaming - clearly it’s a healthcare matter that should be addressed by the person’s healthcare providers - but reveling in a deeply unhealthy body state is completely unhinged for more than a few reasons.
I’m relatively confident I’ll be downvoted aggressively for saying that, but whatever.
Especially when other health conditions make weight control difficult or impossible. Any size person is a real person that can have just as shit opinions as the rest of us.
Then the phrase should be “happy at any size.”
How about, “it’s not socially acceptable to mock, or otherwise comment on others physical form unless invited to do so by that person.”
But that makes for poor sound bite/click bait.
The body positive movement for the overweight was a reaction to a long tradition of a large number of people just thinking it’s ok to openly mock “fat people” because “it’s their fault for being lazy and ugly, and we should just tell them all the time in case they don’t already know, also it’s funny and makes me feel better about my own personal failures that are less outwardly obvious”. But you probably know that already.
well no, health also factors into it. being under your “ideal” weight is unhealthy, and that’s what that lead to. of course your ideal weight shifts with things like muscle mass, so they challenged the idea that skinny equals healthy.