They are desperate to be cool, it’s so cringe.

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    Because it’s so much better when they’re charismatic assholes?

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      I think it’s much sadder (more sad? saddest) that people fall for such absurd douche bags. If they would at least be sexy and seem smart you could understand how people could be fooled but this is just too hard to watch.

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        Yeah like, they have negative charisma, so it’s extra baffling. I cannot imagine a world in which I’d support Donald Trump, but definitely not in this one where he routinely shits his own diaper. If he was only disgusting mentally but was a good speaker or handsome or whatever, it would make at least a little more sense

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            I think it’s dangerous to imagine people follow these folks, or let them run rampant over society, because they aspire to be like them. That makes it so much harder to really understand why people support them, or even just refuse to tell them “no”, and makes it impossible to do anything about it.

            People believe that life is a meritocracy. Even when they themselves can look around at the people near them and see that those in positions of power don’t deserve it, they still view society as a whole as “fair”. Yes, they personally have may have gotten screwed over, but, in general, the people who float to the top got there because they were smarter and more capable. Therefore, we should sit back and just let them cook.

            They need some kind of trigger to see the billionaires not as people who have earned their place, but who have stolen it.

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        So like, if instead of musk and zuckerburg, it were a 1990s George Clooney? The smug bastard…

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        Propoganda fucking works, simple as that

        Billionaires just buy good press and publicists to manage their image, it’s so effective they believe it themselves

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      A charismatic tyrant at least provides SOME excuse. People aren’t necessarily monsters, they are just gullible.

      When you have someone as decrepit and incompetent as trump who ALSO has a visible diaper bulge at his hips and who can’t speak a coherent sentence? There is no argument other than people truly choosing hate above all else.

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      Yeah, I don’t get this. If it was George Clooney or some other charismatic/likeable person, they’d still be fucking us over.

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        The sad thing is that the bar is so low. If it was a once in a century charismatic leader you could say “I get how people fell for this!”. But the fact it’s Trump and Musk just exposes how utterly flawed human society is, and how easy it is to slide backwards. Humanity has no excuse for this one.

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        I don’t know about Clooney. His wife is one of the good eggs in this world and I’d think she would kick him in the grapes if he was a shithead loser like these fucks.

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        Agreed. Tom Brady being the football goat doesn’t make him being MAGA any more palatable.