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could watch stuffcould watch adsAnd porn
The weight scale is misrepresented, though.
Now I’m mad
Good catch!
I absolutely hate that phones got so darn big. Im stuck with iPhone 13 mini even though I hate iOS with no clear upgrade path
I wish 2g and 3g weren’t being dismantled. I want to go back to using my old razr
Porn, this meme used to say porn! Why do we keep self censoring?
Do tankies hate porn?
I have never met anyone that didn’t like porn. Even your most prudish Christians like porn. Why do you think they fight so hard to ban it, they like it and are ashamed for liking it.
I agree with the sentiment, but porn is maybe too restrictive. Phones basically became the new TV.
Good point, overall short form video apps must trounce porn sites
The social media algorithms that give us fake internet points have conditioned us to comply.
We’re on Lemmy though. Even if it were censored you could simply post it to an instance that won’t censor.
That’s why the original commentor was complaining about it. And I’m agreeing with them.
It used to be porn but that was back when phone screens were 16:9. Now they are 18:9 and thats for vertical scrolling of social media feeds.
While porn is definitely part of it, you can also watch Futurama on your phone.
That’s essentially porn for your soul
Because reposters don’t care, they just repost as is, they don’t restore, decensor or remaster anything… And there’s no incentive to, people will upvote anything, there’s no minimum quality anymore (if there ever was at all).
Anyone remember when Steve Jobs said in response to adding video support to the iPod that “nobody wants to watch videos on a handheld?” And then just a few months later, iPods got support for images and videos?
and when iPhone 4 was released, Apple also explained it had the perfect size because you could reach any part of the screen with your thumb while holding it in your hand… but also, antennagate. Steve Jobs was full of crap.
“we” = “they”
Look at all that screen real estate. Utterly wasted on ads and super tall fonts.
Well, I like reading comfortably
Same, it hurts my eyes if the text is too small. I have all my fonts set to 120% size minimum.
Same, so for that reason the ads should gtfo to make more space for the text 👍
(And fonts that are tall but not wide aren’t very comfortable imo)
“Owning your hardware” implies the bootloader is unlockable and relockable.
Don’t forget all the margins around everything for no reason
Super tall fonts?
Yes, look at the screen resolution of your phone (mine is at 1080x2340 by 6.38 to 2.97 inches) and then at an old palm PDA from the early 2000s with 320x320 (or at tops 320x480 by 4.8 to 3.1 inches) and now compare what amount of text you can display on each. The Phone should be able to display soo much more Text, but it doesn’t because the Fonts are so tall.
Thats what I mean.
Because modern phones are somewhere near 400 DPI the fonts are rendered much larger so that they appear more clearer.
If you ran it at 72 DPI (like 90s-era monitors, not sure shout PDAs) you could fit an insane amount of text but would it be legible?
By stuff you mean animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles, right?
Just say porn
That’s so obvious I didn’t think it needed to be said. Who doesn’t watch animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles?
Maybe if you’re a kinky pervert you’d watch .mpeg of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions and giant alien tentacles doing missionary in a committed exclusive relationship exclusively for having kids, but nobody is that depraved.
And what if I don’t want to watch “stuff” on my phone? My phone is supposed to be a portable “swiss-army-knife” of digital tools.
They made tablets for the other “stuff”
I think most of the population are on tiktok and that crack, need big screen for maximum experience…
I’ll never forget circa 2005, my friend was at the Montreal jazz festival or something. He told me about it and he said he took a video. He whipped out his phone that was basically a really thick pen. He showed me a video of another friend doing goofy stuff. Even on this tiny phonewith a tiny screen, it was really enough. I miss the time when someone took out his phone and you actually had no idea what to expect.
Would love a slightly thicker phone with a huge removable battery
also we have to encase our phones in cases because they’re not durable enough to survive day to day life. they could be made more rugged from the factory
That’s mostly because we care about aesthetics. My work phone is some Samsung flagship model from two years ago, I don’t have a case for it (because I don’t give a shit his it looks). Its with me on all factory visits in dirty production environments and what not, dropped it multiple times, stored in my pocket or just thrown in my bag. Screen is not cracked, sides and back are scratched and dinged up, but nothing is broken. They’re plenty durable if you don’t care about minor cosmetic things.
oh man your experience is so different from mine 😂
any phone i drop brings it a little closer to being completely non functional as long as it’s not in a case.
but i do agree with you about one thing: it is all about aesthetic. there’s tons of phones out there made with less shatterproof/scratch resistant glass, or think enough outer shells to protect their innards because when you buy a phone in a store you find the slim ones sexier
They’re experience is different than pretty much every single person on the planet. Hell I keep my phone in a case covered and I still crack the screen even with screen protectors on it.
How do you guys crack screens so easily? I’ve had it happen on one phone and I’ve dropped all of them, sometimes without a case, mostly without a screen protector.
The one that did crack was from like the tiniest drop after 2 years of use but it was a cheap phone without gorilla glass IIRC
I have an 1800$ phone, and have cracked it by just using it.
Is it like a foldable or something? Otherwise I don’t get why a 1800$ phone should be so much more fragile than an iPhone a bit more than half that price. Or any of the <1000$ Androids I’ve owned before I switched over.
I think most phones are plenty durable, people are just paranoid.
And repairs are too expensive/risky. I think more repairable phones is a better aim than more rugged ones.
oh! so we’re clear i’m not advocating against repairability. we absolutely must have that. but i’m tired of how easy it is to destroy an unfixable phone. we should have repairable phones that are designed to have long service intervals
Just so I’m clear as well, I disagree with you on that most phones are easily destroyed :) People are just overly worried about destroying their phones, which is pretty unlikely to happen, because repairing them is annoying and expensive. So they use a case, but it really isn’t all that necessary to do so.
I’ve had my phone caseless (with screen protector), and dropped it plenty of times, for 4 years and haven’t broken it once. I’m also not too worried about breaking it though because it’s easily repairable. If all phones were I think people would forgo a case more often.
Nah, I’d prefer to have a case I can swap once it becomes too damaged vs a phone chassis whose damage I have to live with until I buy a new phone. I’m trying to keep my phone for a long time, so the former is definitely better for my use case.
there’s no preventing us from having thinner cases and thicker phones for such scenarios (and is probably the route i’d want to take, too, since i’m extra clumsy)
This is a good idea. I’ve had to learn how to disassemble and fix phones for the wife mostly and me leastly. She broke a camera glass - and a glass coated back plate. My issues were battery replacement and a USB port replacement and one headphone jack replacement. All things I managed to learn how to fix to keep our 5 to 7 year old phones going until we were damned ready to get a new one. Durability is crap for a reason.
What are you all doing with your phones that you need to put them in cases? I feel like this is the equivalent of covering a high-end car in bumper stickers.
dropping them accidentally occasionally.
Ehhh the one phone I didn’t put a case on happened to be the one phone I broke a screen on. Maybe it’s just pure chance, but I started doing cases and screen protectors again after that
You’ve never damaged a phone ? You would be in the minority I think.
Sadly that would cost me 1000 USD and I cant afford that haha
This looks too good to be true, especially from aliexpress
A friend got one. A few months in it works flawlessly. It even has a projector built in!
It really is a tank.
It’s Chinese. Will it spy on you? Maybe, but so does Google, maybe the govt, the meta app has been proven to listen even when supposedly not active.
Maybe the least invasive option is Pixel with graphene.
I use a Xiaomi, fwiw.
You might like the king kong mini 2
I do like that phone, but it’s 5 years old now. Do they even make it any longer?
There’s a mini 3 but it’s taller so not as small
There’s a pro version and the king kong mini 3 too, both more recent.
Do you feel like magsafe batteries scratch that itch?
Nah, specially after a couple of years and the phone’s internal battery doesnt last a full day
I have small hands and I hate how few small phones there are now
iPhone 13 mini user here; I can relate. Anything bigger than this is too big for me. I will use it until it breaks or security updates stop. After that I will have to see.
Older, smaller phones with PostmarketOS come to mind. But this OS is not ready for day-to-day-use, just yet.
My latest was a zenfone 10, which was the smallest I could find that had good features. It was not easy to find anything though 😑
I have larger than small hands and hate how few “small” phones there are.
I have hands and hate how few “small” phones there are.
Same. It’s been a problems for way over 10 years now. I’ve upgraded to the pixel 9 pro and it’s just too big, even though it’s one of the smaller modern phones available. It’s actually smaller than my previous phone but it seems harder to hold one handed.
I remember back in 1990ish, there was a guy involved in the local music scene who got interviewed on AM radio (Right before the rise of conservative talk radio, when there were still local hosts talking about local issues.). This guy wasn’t a big shot and not a musician, just a guy passabout music. tmusic. He went by the moniker Jim Clevo, I had the fortune of meeting him once. Anyways, he had insight as to where the music industry was headed. In the interview, he told how in the future we would be listening to music through our phones. At the time high tech was a cordless landlines with an answering machine built in. He sounded crazy, i couldn’t figure out why he thought we would all be holding phones up to our ears listening to music, I never had anything but a corded phone at the time. Not sure why I’m rambling about it other than this post reminded me of him.
I mean as soon as cassettes were a thing, mix tapes by holding the cassette to the radio became a thing right? Why not phones?
Hell back in the 80s, before the breakup of Yugoslavia, they went a step further: they had a home PC that could be built from parts available at electronics stores. It used a cassette recorder for a HDD.
A local radio station started broadcasting software, pc owners could record the audio of a program on a Walkman, then put the tape in their PC.
There’s a past we never got where a radio-based internet existed alongside the landlines based one.
Was he frank zappa?
https://www.grunge.com/139089/rock-stars-who-freakishly-predicted-the-future/
i would kill for button based menu navigation to come back
Why
ergonomic, don’t have to move your hands.
tactile, don’t have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing
“safer” since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip
But it eats into tbr screen size if implemented the old school Blackberry way, instead what I’d prefer is a under the screen slide out keyboard + navigation pad, like the Blackberry priv, or even the LG wing with the second display screen could have been an amazing form factor, allowing you to control the main display from the smaller customizable touch display at the bottom, at least my main screen wouldn’t have all these finger smudges
Yes, but even just for menu navigation without keyboard would be an improvement. wouldn’t have to use more space than the old physical home buttons.
However typing is the more frustrating element, so it would be nice.
Yeah something like the touch center button in the old Blackberry would be great for navigation, and they could add a fingerprint scanner to it like the old iPhone, and make that stupid top notch smaller
ergonomic, don’t have to move your hands.
I can’t even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you’re an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.
tactile, don’t have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing
Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn’t be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway.
“safer” since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip
How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.
It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I’m making assumptions.
I can’t even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you’re an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.
I don’t use iPhone. I mean the button does not move, a touch interface might require input anywhere on the screen.
Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn’t be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway
They are dynamic, but if you are doing the same task, they will do the same thing. Meaning if you are habitually doing a task, you can memorize it.
How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.
I am talking about gripping the whole device, not holding buttons. On a touchscreen device the whole thing is a button, so you only want to grab the bezel, which is as tiny as the designer can muster, to avoid accidental input. This makes for a less firm and ergonomic grip.
It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I’m making assumptions
You are indeed making assumptions. How do you conclude that advocating for buttons is tied to the device that revolitionized the industry towards touch only?
I think iOS had gesture navigation long before Android, as default anyway.
But I’m pretty sure that person is talking about how it used to be before smartphones, when you really only needed the ok/enter button and the d-pad around it. Modern smartphones can’t be entirely navigated by a single thumb that you don’t even move.
They prolly like murder or sth
everyone needs a hobby
We didn’t “realise” we could watch stuff; we got touch screen technology, wifi and mobile data became cheaper as we got 3G, 4G and 5G. The we *could *watch stuff, and browse the internet - this was always the obvious course of phones even in the 90s when bricks were still around. Meanwhile battery tech hasn’t moved forwards much, so these big screen, wifi, Bluetooth & 5G connected,video playing devices need bigger batteries to keep going all day. Ironically a bigger device - even with a bigger screen - will have a longer battery life because you can physically fit a bigger battery in.
Also this chart stops at 2015 - and thats still accurate. Mobile phone tech has plateaued. Time was, iPhone launches each year were a big deal because Apple was good at bringing previously out a of reach tech into the mass market. Now all the changes are minor and phone launches are dull. iPhones are now just popular because they’re iPhones. Chips are getting a bit more energy efficient pushing the capabilities a bit; but cameras, screens, storage and connectivity are probably as good as they’re going to get for now beyone incremental changes.
We’re now probably in the enshittification phase where companies try to justify ever increasing prices but can’t - iPhone prices have been largely static for 5 years because Apple can’t find a compelling reason to increase them. Whether there are stupid notches in the phone display, or expensive accessories like wireless headphones or now trying to up-sell people on software / services - ultimately a phone is just a phone now. The manufacturers latest hope is that somehow AI will allow them to charge more but it’s looking like AI in it’s current form has little value to consumers. Apple has delayed it’s changes to Siri because it’s struggling to make something that isn’t basically just another unreliable overhyped LLM.
Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves; if smaller high energy density batteries come then that really will unlock a new revolution. The AI bubble doesn’t look like it’s going to deliver.
Before full touch screens came out I bought a small windows CE full screen device and put a few videos on it on a card (can’t recall if it was sd or something more primitive) and watched anime in between calls at work.
I always wanted this, and phones getting better at it just meant less devices. I am partial to phablets and fold phones because I like to read books,light novels,and manga on a bigger screen while being portable. I have in the past used both a tablet and phone before I got my fold, and when the inside screen of my fold failed after a couple years I am now back at both until I can afford a replacement.
I know not everyone wants this, but that’s why we have options, and dumb/feature phones can still be purchased, even from large carriers (though price of plan may be wasted on those). These memes act like there are only smartphones now, but dumbphones were always an option.
Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves
I don’t think so. The real thing is just ergonomics. They want as big a screen as they can and human hands are only so big. They won’t retreat in form factor.
If anything they’ll are toying w bit with folding screens to make devices scale up and still be hand friendly.
The next big step is going to have to be wearable, to produce arbitrarily large content hands free. Don’t know if social norms will tolerate it, but that’s really the possible evolution from the status quo.
