• Kernal64@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m glad this is getting some traction now, but this is some poor reporting. This is one site reporting what another site saw, which was just GrapheneOS restating things they’ve been saying since the summer, with no new info. I read both this article and the one they link to as their source and learned nothing I haven’t already known for months just from casually checking on GrapheneOS socials.

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    I’ll speculate.

    My money’s on Asus. Asus is a bit more mainstream than Nothing but still enough of an underdog that I think they should see the value in a partnership. They already target an enthusiast niche with the ROG line.

    The Nothing Phone 3 uses an SD 8s Gen 4, which is not Qualcomm’s “flagship” SOC, and it would be stretching the definition of “major” OEM, but who knows? This seems the most likely after Asus.

    Moto’s only flagship Snapdragon phone is the Razr Ultra, which I guess is possible. It’d be weird, but hey, I’d buy one.

    OnePlus has been moving in the opposite direction for years now, locking things down more and more. I think they’re too big for their britches at this point.

    Sony’s flagships are crazy expensive, well beyond the price of Pixels. They also don’t cover the US market, though I’m not sure how important that is to the Graphene devs.

    HMD doesn’t make any phones with flagship SOCs. I think their best is the Skyline, with a 7s gen 2, Qualcomm’s fourth-tier SOC line (the “s” stands for shitty).

    Fairphone doesn’t use flagship Snapdragons and GOS has had some pretty nasty things to say about them in the past.

    Samsung is a pipe dream. They’d have no motivation. The entire GOS user base would be a rounding error to them.

    On a global scale, Xiaomi would be a huge get. Not sure I see any of the Chinese OEMs focusing on this though.

    Lenovo and Blackberry…might still exist? I think?

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      Honestly can’t imagine any chinese manufacturer partnering with a free and open Android OS. Even though it would be cool, since their phones usually have decent hardware

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      Asus would be nice, I’ve liked most of the zenphones but either didn’t support my carrier/bands or something like that or they stopped allowing bootloader unlocking which is why I didn’t think they’d be on the list but this would be a great way to jump back in as an option for enthusiasts.

      Also would love for it to be RAZR, I really want one but also want GrapheneOS but hesitant to buy a pixel.

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      Amateur marketing speak for “we’re considering bringing it to other hardware”?

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        It’s not marketing speak because GrapheneOS didn’t say it. It’s a bad headline from a site known for bad reporting. GrapheneOS has been talking about this for months and there’s nothing new in this article that wasn’t already out there.

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          No need to defend it. It was obviously a comment on the headline; I didn’t care who wrote it - the criticism was directed at whomever vomited it up. Tech publications are as much uncritical PR agencies for tech companies as the latter’s marketroids are.

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            I was trying to clarify, not defend. It is absolute garbage and this article as a whole is a pile of nothing, written in a weird breathless style like they just discovered something. Thumbs down to this shit all around.

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    I hope they also enhance their social media strategy, as their unprofessional and aggressive way of communication makes me question their trustworthiness more than I want, as I think the project is awesome.

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      For me, it would be the opposite. Their “unprofessional” and aggressive way of communications makes me think they are doing it for convictions rather then personal benefits. The person that’s helping you doesn’t need to be overly polite. The person trying to exploit you does.

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      Seriously. I love GOS and can’t imagine using a phone without it at this point, but their social media is a shitshow and a half.

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      Yep. They need an actual comms professional. I love GOS and am forever grateful to the team but having a bunch of non-nuero-typical devs speaking for them is not doing them any favours.

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        If you want a direct example you can check their replies on Mastodon to about every topic.

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        They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn’t take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon.

        They have good points, but they’re often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit.

        They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever.

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          I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn’t believe them just based on the tone.

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            I mean, I think they’re right that the security is worse. I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn’t do per-site process isolation by default, for example.

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          wasn’t that in the pqst? wasn’t that just the guy who started it or sonethinf? isn’t that person off the team now?

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            If you’re talking about Daniel Micay, he’s still heavily involved. I’m pretty sure he still maintains the accounts since they haven’t really changed writing style or anything. IIUC though he’s no longer the main dev.

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              That’s what I’ve been thinking as well, remember having a conversation with him in a forum a few years ago and recently looked up something that had a comment from the official GrapheneOS account. The writing style was exactly the same. Kinda disappointing IMO, the dude is clearly a brilliant coder but he should be kept away from the official accounts as far as possible.

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    Let’s congrats Graphene team for supporting the Google hardware for so long, they surely helped Google profit a lot given people buying Pixel just to use Graphene.

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      They supported Google because it was the only device with the hardware security features they needed

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        I doesn’t matter, they’re supporting Google, they should do the best they can for more variety of models, even if it means not being “ultra super highly extreme private”.

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          That defeats the entire point of the project, there are other custom ROMs that significantly improve privacy and security on non-google phones. What’s accomplished by graphene supporting them?

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    Could Fairphone count as a “Major” Android OEM ?

    They do use snapdragon chips, are priced roughly the same as the pixels, and might align the most with a project like Graphene and its values ?

    One can dream…

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      They haven’t named the company yet or shown prototypes, so this is probably a couple years away. I’m on Pixel 8 right now, and I’ll probably buy the latest Pixel that can still run Graphene next time I get a new phone.

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        Think I saw them respond that they were aiming for last half of 2026 to 2027 for the new phones.

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        Honesty I would just wait it out if I were you. I really regret getting the pixel 9 (since my last phone broke).

        There is nothing new in the pixel 10 the only area that desperately needed improvement was the battery which is just as bad if not worse than the 9 and the modem still sucks. It is not fully bad but because of low reception it fights harder to get signal and therefore burns away the battery even faster.

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      They will most definitely continue the support for existing Pixel models.

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      It’s okay just keep using it with GrapheneOS as you need to as support will continue for pixels.

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    Break free, implying they won’t support Pixels anymore (is how I interpreted it at first anyway), but they are simply expanding support for more devices. 👍

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      For existing Pixel users, GrapheneOS plans to maintain support for current devices until their end-of-life dates. The team is working on adding Pixel 10 support, though the timeline remains unclear. Whether they’ll support Pixel 11 and beyond hasn’t been decided yet.

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      The article suggests that they have not decided whether to support new models of Pixel but will support current models until EOL

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        He’ll use that phone for the next 20 years as it’s the last one on the planet with an unlocked bootloader

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    It’d be funny to me if Pixel sales tanked a significant amount and it turns out that people only used their phones for Graphene.

    Me personally, I don’t like Pixel phones. But I’ve owned every single one of them through 9 Pro.

    I look forward to a Graphene future.