• snooggums@piefed.worldEnglish
    271·
    2 天前

    In Kansas you can be butt ass naked on the sidewalk as long as you aren’t making it sexual.

      • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
        91·
        1 天前

        I’d argue that the naked human body isn’t inherently sexual in nature.

        • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.todayEnglish
          22·
          1 天前

          It would take oh so much conditioning to think like that. You would have to be taught to think like that from the beginning. Society would need one hell of an overhaul.

          I’m afraid to stare in the direction of a clothed woman’s boobs, which often causes me to awkwardly U-turn, because I don’t want the bullshit I had to experience before (someone notices, and gives you comments like “go grab her by the pussy” or other disgusting shit). Even with those societal barriers gone, you would basically need intense therapy to not feel wrong seeing naked people.

          • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
            101·
            21 小时前

            I’m afraid to stare in the direction of a clothed woman’s boobs

            Staring is generally frowned upon regardless of a person being clothed or unclothed, but one is entirely free to look in a certain direction or do what is comfortable without fear - which includes specifically looking at another person briefly. There are plenty of valid reasons to examine another person and lots of them are entirely innocent.

            someone notices, and gives you comments like “go grab her by the pussy” or other disgusting shit

            I can’t say I’ve ever had that experience, but you don’t have to be uncomfortable if somebody caught you in moment like that.

            you would basically need intense therapy to not feel wrong seeing naked people.

            People have very little reasons to be nude e.g. in modern American society, but it doesn’t have to be weird or sexual. The laws obviously need to catch up first and foremost, but I feel like there’s nothing wrong with being naked - even if a person has more ahem overt sexual characteristics that others take note of.

            The thing about nudity is that people generally gradually get used to it. The differences become less impactful after a certain point. Sure it takes time, and people who have issues with their appearance and body may have greater barriers, but I don’t feel like intense therapy is needed for most.

            • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.todayEnglish
              3·
              1 天前

              I will just stare blankly with my thoughts on something else, and get accused of gazing. That’s the thing, I have to go out of my way not to stare at a person, which often means walking awkwardly, sometimes hitting something I was not looking at 🤷‍♂️

              I will pretty much only gaze at a woman if pressured, and I can’t even keep that up. The programming is strong that this is very wrong.

              TL;DR: I hate male company as a result, in an ironic twist.

              • BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                3·
                21 小时前

                So, the only reason you can come up with against public nudity is that you specifically are unable to control themselves 🤔

              • Michael@slrpnk.netEnglish
                6·
                21 小时前

                Well if I was with you in public, I’d definitely be supporting you to feel more comfortable in your skin. Regardless of the broader topic of nudity and all that, I hope you can find someone who can help you out in that way or generally hope you can make a breakthrough somehow in this area.

                I admit I’ve dealt with this myself and I had the same intense fear growing up due to bullying, but we have to learn to give ourselves a break. I feel like a lot of people forget that we are all mammals - physical beings that are occupying a space. Sometimes we do have sexual desires or interests, but as long as we aren’t intending on making things sexual or awkward - usually it’s all a-okay. If we offend someone else with our gaze or otherwise make them uncomfortable, sometimes the best thing is to just apologize and play it off.

      • snooggums@piefed.worldEnglish
        10·
        1 天前

        Behave the same way you would with clothes on. Just do things like tending a garden or talking to neighbors.

        Think about it this way: Some guys like their nipples played with and can rub their nipples in public without getting any real attention unless they do it towards kids or something. Why is a bare nipple on a woman automatically sexual just because it is exposed? It isn’t automatically sexual despite a bunch of prudes assuming it is.

  • ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
    26·
    10 小时前

    I don’t understand why people like being naked in the first place. It’s always confused me. The only time I’m naked is if I’m showering or having sex.

    • jonesey71@lemmus.orgEnglish
      3·
      24 小时前

      Is that a typo, did you mean to say “so long as you ARE being weird about it.”? Weird, as in: naked bike ride.

    • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      1 天前

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        2·
        24 小时前

        “In Oregon, it is not illegal to be naked in public. We do have a public indecency law and a private indecency law, but both of those have a required element," Miller said. “It has to be for the purpose of arousal for it to be illegal. That was not the case in this issue.”

        So, dude walking around with his junk hanging out? Not illegal. Dude jacking it in public? Illegal.

        • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
          32·
          15 小时前

          for the purpose of arousal

          Dude jacking it in public? Illegal.

          Why? As long as he is jacking it for himself it should be allowed if the purpose is the deciding element.

            • entwine@programming.dev
              3·
              6 小时前

              But how do you evaluate if people are unconsenting about an act before the act takes place? That’d be premature evaluation.

            • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
              31·
              9 小时前

              In Oregon or all over the US?

              Would a brown paper bag in front of the private parts make it legal, like alcohol?

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            3·
            14 小时前

            Would be a fun defense to try:

            “Your honor, you’ve seen the video, nobody is aroused by that…”

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
    41·
    8 小时前

    I think “being nude” is similar to “being honest”. You reveal what’s inside you without any kind of concealing mask.

    Really, the US not wanting people to be nude at any cost makes me think that the US does not want the people to think honest thoughts either.

  • BanMe@lemmy.world
    17·
    1 天前

    I’m in Arkansas and I have a 6-foot-fenced yard, highest my neighborhood will allow. I straight up called the police department and asked them - if someone complains I am nude, in a non-sexual way, what would happen? They laughed and said they wouldn’t even bother issuing a warning. So YMMV :)

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      23 小时前

      do you back onto another row of two story homes?

      I guess after thinking about it, I’m okay with nudity even in that situation, because if it’s just nudity alone then that’s whatever, and if it’s inappropriate then it would be inappropriate regardless of whether nudity is legal or not

      • BanMe@lemmy.world
        4·
        19 小时前

        I was here first but people built around me. One neighbor’s upstairs can see in. I told them when they were building - you’re going to occasionally see dong if you look over here. They laughed, I didn’t.

        • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          18 小时前

          sounds like I’d rather have you as my neighbour than the loud french people next door who “want more privacy” but then scalped their side of the cedars so they’re basically see through, and shout about their hemorrhoids on phone calls outside lol

  • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
    2·
    4 小时前

    Lock me up.

    I used to go outside at like 2 or 3am for a sprint around my backyard nude a few times when I was like a teenager.

  • 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
    7·
    14 小时前

    I want to hear a strong eastern Massachusetts accent say,

    “It is the duty as a citizen of these Commonwealth and State of Massachusetts to hereby decree the fundamental illegality of being in the nude per the confines of an individuals backyard. Whether visible or not to neighbors and or the greater public, it is the sworn duty to uphold any type of nudity outside the home or establishment that is permitted to allow a visible display of said nudeness to persons of an age that is either 18 or 21. Furthermore any attempts to show any nakedly graphic pictures of the human anatomical form sans articles of clothing to be a direct affront to the values deemed appropriate by the officials Oveh theh in Baustin.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    821·
    2 天前

    Going nude in your backyard in November in Oregon sounds like a standard thing. We got naked bike rides so, yeah, this checks.

      • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        64·
        2 天前

        I know of at least two states marked as a no where its perfectly legal as long as there is a reasonable expectation that its private (appropriate fencing or shrubbery for example).

        Not personal experience, but because a lawyer friend was explaining reasonable expectations of privacy for a completely unrelated context (filming and photography in public).

        Sorry, nothing fun.