The move comes amid outcry from Democrats after the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts affixed Trump’s name to its sign in Washington.
Donald Trump’s name is being attached to a new class of U.S. battleships that will have nuclear capabilities.
Making the announcement at an event at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, Navy Secretary John Phelan referred to the warships as “Trump-class battleships" and said a forthcoming vessel dubbed the USS Defiant will be “the largest, deadliest and most versatile and best-looking warship anywhere on the world’s oceans.”
Trump’s eponymous battleships will be armed with guns and missiles, as well as hypersonic weapons, electronic rail guns and high-powered lasers.
What they, and most other countries need, is much more smaller ships.
The reason there are no battleships produced since 1944 is because they suck. It’s a lot of firepower on a single platform. 1 modern torpedo and everything is a coral reef. Battleships were to be on the line of the battle, the naming comes from ship of the line. But these days we don’t have line battles anymore. We have long range missiles. So it’s basically a slow platform with a loss of most of your firepower if it sinks. And it will sink, when 500 cheap drones will easily saturate it’s defense capabilities.
They want to add a railgun. Any idea how much energy that takes? It needs to be nuclear powered, otherwise the entire shill will be defenseless for a long time after each shot, as it needs to refill it’s batteries since a shot depletes the entire ship. But ok, nuclear powered you say, the US can do that. Ok, great, now you have a weapon which can fire… so fast, the curvature of the earth and gravity have too little influence on the projectile, so over the horizon targeting doesn’t work, only line of sight. Again, ships these days aren’t supposed to be in line of sight range when fighting, we have long range missiles. So a railgun is useless. They found out during the Zumwalt disaster.
Clearly they used AI to render this ship. Look at the helicopter platform. It will be mostly unservicable with a seastate above 3 which is most of the time. The entire deck will constantly be washed over, no helo can land or takeoff from that. Next to that not all surfaces are angled, creating a huge radar cross section. Easy target.
So this isn’t a serious combat platform, this is a micropenis compensation project. Why else would it be named after the senile dictator? Hitler wanted 2 battleships too, they both sank (one without seeing battle once). Those resources would have been much better spent on much more U-boten.
Navies want bigger ships with more capabilities, but the actual need these days is small specialized escorts ships. Small, fast ships able to escorts the high value larger platforms for defense in depth all combined with a wide spread insane amount of firepower. Some ASW, some AAW, some ASuW, but not everything at once. A single loss shouldn’t be decisive to the eventual battle outcome. Strength in numbers. But tell that to a crooked pedo dictator with a micropenis.
I am thinking drone submarines might be a thing eventually. Sneak up to a coastline and release them all before anyone is the wiser. Would probably make manufacturing and costs way less of a burden if there is no need for oxygen.
The issue with submersible drones is connection. Underwater only very low frequency can go through the water, reaching outside of the water. There are new technologies to improve it, but it’s very limited. So drones would need to operate autonomously. It’s possible, but detection and acquisition is hard, and based on known loggings in databases. And loggings do not exist for newer platforms, or if a platform received new screws for example. Semisubmersibles are a better option, they can be equipped with starlink for example. You can see their effective use already with Ukraine, fighting off the Russian black Sea fleet without a navy in their own. Fully submersibles are possible, but much more difficult to use effectively. The US already has them, but mainly for logging and registering the sound velocity (based on salinity and temp, on different depths) but not for engaging, or at least as far as we know so far.
The issue with submersible drones is connection. Underwater only very low frequency can go through the water, reaching outside of the water
Fiber optic cables solve that
Trump-class battleships
Slow, bloated, lacking any intelligence capability, staffed by only straight white christian men, mysteriously costs 10x what it should, has a pedophile ballroom, and is painted orange for some reason.
I hope all of this frantically naming shit after himself is because he was recently told he’s about to die
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.
I have a bottle of champagne just waiting for the day.
It will be orange and the ships systems will constantly lie to you!
It’ll never get made. We have heard enough time filling the destroyer and submarine orders the navy ordered 20 years ago. Those and drones are where sea warfare is going. Battle ships are billionaire dollar targets that can be taken out my a $5 million dollar missile. As Russia about how they were forced to ancher or remove their fleets around Ukraine. All by stuff you can buy at home depot. Modern warfare made battleships obsolete around 1947.
Even beyond the basic drydock capacity we straight up don’t produce enough steel for this anymore. Even the US military industrial complex is a hollow shell.
It’s basically a money laundering operation that kills children on the side
The child deaths are just a bonus
I guess that’s one thing to be optimistic about
They new FFX frigates are supposed to be glorified drone controllers/motherships. Makes sense. dispersed force is the future.
Yup. You don’t even need to damage or sink capital ships anymore. Just the threat alone keeps them out of fighting. When a guy with c4 and a dingy can knock your $20 billion dollar aircraft carrier out of the fight for even an hour, ist catastrophic.
As a trekkie, I’m extra offended that he’s tainting the name USS Defiant
It was probably planned as the Defiant class but the Dorito Dictator isn’t going to be happy until he’s named every single thing after himself.
Traitor class
Removed by mod
the lavish egocentrism seems very fitting with us fascism though
Correct term for trump is dotard.
Do you play league of legends?
No never. I was quoting Kim Jong-Un’s term for trump and it fits.
I feel that retarded doesn’t quite capture the level of retardedness anymore.
Kinda funny that it’s a battleship of all things. Really shows you the sort of brainless nostalgia that’s running things. The end of this gerontocracy can’t come soon enough.
I’ve seen new architect kids and draftsmen make better renderings 15 years ago.
Whoever is next is going to be busy enough in their first term just taking Trumps name off things.
US already doesn’t have the shipbuilding capacity to lay down the hulls we’ve already got planned for years, but yeah go on.
Yeah I’m not an expert but I don’t think US really needs these?
Not only didn’t need them. They are considered a tactical liability.
For the resources to build a battleship, they o could build a couple of cruisers. In aggregate those would be more flexible, have better survivability, and have more offensive capability
It is a stupid bloated vessel for the sake of some twisted sense of superficial extravagant while in truth being a subpar waste of a bunch of people’s money. So I guess maybe it is worthy of being named Trump class.
So basically it’s the opposite of what the navy need. The navy has needed a cheaper more numerous hull to complement the Burke class. Something that they have failed with the LCS program and the recently canceled Constellation.
The Trump class is so large they might have to be built into the same dockyard as carriers. I don’t know if Bath iron works can accommodate ships that large. So it would have to be Newport News Shipbuilding or Ingalls Shipbuilding, both of which are already very busy.
It also means that the dockyard for smaller ships still don’t have any work and some of them could eventually shutdown from bankruptcy, further reducing the number of dockyard and production facilities for the navy.
Edit: I am also going to add, since we have the design for the FF(X) ship that is going to replace the cancelled Constellation class. The FF(X) if it’s built as planned is significantly worse than Constellation and will not fill the role that the navy needs. But it’s probably a nice bit of money for Ingalls Industries.
That is honestly upsetting to read 😕 get it together Navy!
The US doesn’t need any of Trump’s fucked up vanity projects, but they seem content to allow him to do it anyway.
I’m hoping this one gets scrapped before it hits the water
“US navy Molester Class Trumpliners”
Pedophile class destroyer named the USS Child Rapist.
USS Epstein, Trump-class battleshit
Just imagine how bad all the gold plating will look being constantly exposed to salt water.
Gold doesn’t corrode, might be the best idea yet!
Except when it does start corroding, we’ll know its not real gold.
