NEW YORK (AP) — Kamala Harris “wrote off rural America” during the 2024 presidential campaign and failed to attack Donald Trump with sufficient “negative firepower,” according to a long-awaited post-election autopsy released on Thursday by the Democratic National Committee.
The committee’s chair, Ken Martin, shared the 192-page report only after facing intense internal pressure from frustrated Democratic operatives concerned with his leadership. Martin had originally promised to release the autopsy, only to keep it under wraps for months because he was concerned it would be a distraction ahead of the midterms as Democrats mobilize to take back control of Congress.
This is bad, but for completely unexpected reasons
I thought they withheld it because it identified issues with the democratic platform that would put them at odds with donors, but instead it’s a half-assed opinion piece scratched out on toilet paper and riddled with errors and no evidence to speak of
Third-Way and other neo-liberal rags are claiming victory over this pile of shit - I’m happy to let them roll around in it by themselves
Who could have imagined that refusing to release information you publicly promised to release would also be a distraction?
It would have been nice if everyone showed up to vote too but I guess another Donald Trump presidency wasn’t scary enough for people. Well. Thanks a lot.
Blaming voters for not lining up behind their anointed cop is why the Democrats will keep losing.
There were two possible choices in the American election
- vote for Kamala
- be an absolute idiot
Which one are you?
Lol, fuck all the way fucking off, Vote Blue moron.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
You failed the basic 2024 IQ test.
The blame doesn’t fall wholly on the one side or the other, here. Between the voters, nominees, campaign runners, and the party itself every had something they needed to do to win. Failures were made among all groups and it’s valid to point all of them out.
And this article is about the DNC, so changing the topic is one way to deflect from their obvious failures. Blame the voters, right? Even in a post dedicated to discovering where the DNC fucked up.
that’s a fair point.
My vote is earned, Democrats couldn’t be bothered and Top Cop asserted she would not be changing Biden’s course if she won. The blame is ALL on the Democrats.
One of the candidates on the ballot will be sworn into office whether you vote or not. So regardless if you’re voting for someone or against someone, it’s foolish to silence your only voice in the selection process.
Who says I didn’t vote? I have and will continue to vote Green as both GOP and Dems had loudly committed to continuing the genocide. Which was absolutely a dealbreaker for many, many voters.
Pissing away your vote clearly improved the situation in Gaza.
Voting 3rd party at the state and federal level in a district without some form of RCV or an encumbent 3rd party representative is pretty much a counter-productive to giving greater political power to your preferred end of the political spectrum. It’s just lowering the number of votes the opposing end of the spectrum needs to win because of our first-past-the-post plurality winner-takes-all system. Yes, I know it’s a corrupt system working as designed by those in power. Quoting myself from another thread where included sources for all this:
We won’t get rid of the two-party system by voting for losing 3rd party candidates. At present there are a grand total of 3 (out of 535) federal legislators who are not either Democratic or Republican. Bernie Sanders ran in the Democratic primary for Senate in 2008, winning the nomination but then declining it to run as an Independent. Kevin Kiley was first elected as a Republican and then declared as Independent after several years in office. In all state legislatures combined, there are a total of 6 state senators and 22 state representatives out of 7,578 total state legislative seats. There hasn’t been a single electoral college vote for a presidential 3rd party candidate sine 1968, and Perot won 19% of the national popular vote in 1992! Unless you already live in a district with ranked choice voting or with an independent elected official, the odds of displacing either of the major parties is effectively zero. So your best opportunity for reform is still to vote for such candidates at the state level in the major party primary.
For county and below, have at it. If your state/federal rep is already 3rd party or independent and not getting trounced in public approval, keep them. If your district has RCV, definitely support 3rd party. but in the other 99.5% of districts, voting Green at state and federal level is just making easier for a Republican to win.
Cry harder or push your shit ass party to earn some fucking votes because none of what you wrote means a damned thing.
With the shamefully antiquated Electoral College still in place, that’s an interesting push. Of course, that’s assuming there is an election. 😶🌫️
At present I believe the only way to get past the EC is with National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. And the only way to get that is to elect state legislators who will support adopting in. The only way to get them on the general election ballot to be elected is to vote for them in the primary. And since our current reality is that over 99% of state and federal legislators are Democratic or Republican, I believe we can only get those people who support electoral reform elected by nominating them in either the Democratic or Republican primary. It’s an actionable thing that we can all do today that doesn’t require any systemic reform to have already taken place and it’s backed by observable reality. Do you have an alternate suggestion?
I genuinely wish I did, but I’m equipped with a turd paddle, same as my fellow citizens. ✊🏼
The voters are basically the same every election. Yeah they evolve over time but not quickly. You can’t blame populace for being exactly who they are.
They weren’t enthusiastic about Kamala, and if you ask me it has everything to do with the economy and approximately fuck all to do with anything else. But you can’t fault the people any more than you can fault the tide when there is a flood.
I can absolutely fault every single person who didn’t vote in either the primary or the general for giving up their voice. Voting is the only speech that matters in respect to who is sworn into office. If you don’t speak up when it counts then I will absolutely call you out for complaining about the result.
You either meet people where they are, you find a strategy to move the people, or you lose. None of that is on the people. Your blame changes nothing. It’s wishful thinking — you go into the election with the voters you have, not the voters you wish you had.
And voters go into the election with the nominees they have, not the nominees they wish they had. And to be clear, people who skip an election because the equate that to voting for “none of the above” are non-voters in that election. The reality we have is that [for over 99% of the state and federal legislative offices and for the presidency] either the Democratic or the Republican nominee will win that election regardless of how many people don’t vote or why they chose not to. Not voting lowers the number of votes needed for the other side of the political spectrum to win. It’s the last chance for the voting-eligible public to effect the outcome of that election, and to skip it and silence themselves and then complain about the outcome deserves being confronted over. And again, pointing this out does not excuse the failure of Kamala/Walz and their campaign runners and the DNC of their faults. All of them have blame here.
I can absolutely fault every single person who didn’t vote in either the primary or the general for giving up their voice.
Oh no, baronvonj on lemmy “blames” me for Kamala and the DNC shitting the bed and running a candidate who wouldnt deviate from a platform with underwater approval rates and wildly illegal genocide support. eyeroll
Please send me your thoughts and prayers, everyone. I’m in bad shape and I think about this all the time.
/s
On a more serious note, Ken Martin is an idiot and needs to be thrown bodily from the party.
Oh no, baronvonj on lemmy “blames” me for Kamala and the DNC shitting the bed and running a candidate
No, that’s a strawman, I never blamed non-voters for Kamala’s campaign or the DNC. I blame them for not voting because that made it easier for Trump to win, by lowering the number of votes he needed to do so. I do blame Kamala for her policies and her campaign managers for their campaign. But I accept that this is real life with real consequences and come election day it was either going to be Trump or Kamala announced as the winner regardless of those things, so I voted against Trump.
Yeah probably, but unfortunately people need to vote.
It would have been nice if everyone showed up to vote too
Democrats dismantled one of the most effective GOTV operations in the Midwest because of an obvious psyop by a college drop out.
That was the beginning of a long and miserable series of defeats at every level of government for the next 18 years.
Gotta wonder what you are supposed to think about a party that won’t fight for the VRA, won’t fight for the courts, won’t fight for DC statehood, and won’t fight for the wildly popular anti-war and pro-health care policies that they campaigned on.
At the very fucking least, Biden could have delivered on a prosecution of the Trump administration, rather than telling his voters that Trump had done nothing illegal.
Yeah I understand it’s really flabbergasting that we don’t have more power and that we can’t put forth better choices but we had a choice put before us. You can bring all kinds of other conjecture about it until you’re blue in the face but the fact is people had a choice and they made a poor one. Time will tell if it was better in the long run or not, maybe it is better that all the ugliness of pure capitalism is on full gross display, who knows.
we had a choice put before us
We did not. Primaries were cancelled and the general was rigged.
You can bring all kinds of other conjecture
Nothing about this is conjecture. Dems dismantled the machinery that moved people to the polls. Then they lost. Republicans did the opposite and won.
Blaming the little old grandma whose mail in ballot never arrived, the freshly minted teenager who was told they couldn’t vote on their college campus, and the perennial Dem whose name got purged from the voter rolls - nevermind the million plus voters in DC who have never been enfranchised in the legislature - that they failed to elect a candidate neck deep up Liz Cheney’s asshole because they’re bad people isn’t going to save your party next election any more than it did last time
All I remember is the Democrats taking careful aim and blowing their own damned fool foot off by skipping primaries and choosing a COP as the candidate. Trump Bad was a crappy message, Kamala is a terrible politician.
Your memory is bad, or, more likely, propagandized.
Biden won the 2024 primaries. He should have admitted to himself he wasn’t capable anymore, but he didn’t.
By the time he stepped down the Dems had a little problem: they couldn’t legally put anyone else on the ballot in a fair number of states. Or at least it would been argued in court they couldn’t. Harris was literally the only choice available, unless they just didn’t run a candidate in half the country, by virtue of being on the ticket already.
Yes, the Democrats are running a geriocracy and have been openly puppeting a fair number of senile senators for a decade so they probably figured they could get away with it again.
Yes, Biden and the people surrounding him fucked it up by refusing to acknowledge reality.
Yes, Harris obviously wasn’t a good enough candidate.
You should probably put a little more effort into knowing what actually happened before complaining though.
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All but two states had candidates for president on their Democratic primary ballots (fuck those two that didn’t). My state had like 7 candidates to pick from. And then again for the convention, after Biden dropped out, they opened up the field for candidates to declare again and the pledged delegates all voted on the nominee. What you really should be mad at is that there weren’t any serious challengers running, but that’s the fault of those individuals for not doing so (even it was under private pressure from the DNC it was their own choice to capitulate). You’re also forgetting that a measly 4% of primary voters showed up to vote for “Uncommitted,” which turned out to be hugely successful in drawing media attention to the discontent of active voters and contributed to Biden’s eventual stepping down.
yeah I have plenty of gripes with the DNC but having the vice president run in the presidents place when he stepped down is not one of them. Honestly the whole super delegate thing bothers me way more than that one thing.
they changed the convention rules for superdelegate in 2017, now they don’t even get to vote for the nominee unless the pledged delegates can’t elect a nominee in the first round of voting at the convention. Not that the superdelegates even mattered in 2016, as Hillary won the popular primary vote and had enough pledged delegates.
yeah. regardless its a stupid system that will always be a stain on how they work. We are a democracy and if they want to be the party of democracy they need to set the example.
I agree.
I’ll keep being mad at the shit ass DNC for everything they did to steal two elections. And hand another to a segregationist rapist corporatist shitbag in Biden.
You should be mad about it. But I think that anger should be expressed by bringing more people to the primaries to tell the DNC we will elect our own nominee rather than roll over and take what they want us to. Look at Mandami and AOC, they got on the ballot in spite of the party insiders and donors, because the people showed up to vote.
