Things that aren’t common among one’s peers tend to be noticeable. I don’t think it’s an issue of wealth vs poverty.
haha good one and true
“Things that are normal when you’re poor but ‘impressive’ when you’re rich.”
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Walking everywhere
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Eating simple grains
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Hunting / fishing for food
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Spending time with your family
- Getting money from the government
Surely that is wrong. Getting money from the government is easier if you are rich.
Fair, I was more thinking in a way of “things that are trashy when you’re poor and amazing when you’re rich”
Where i am from if you get the universal basic income (there are some requirements to get, some of them is not having a work/having a very very low paycheck which is like having no work) , many people will roast you “aah! You jobless that rob us of money!!!” while if the rich get the money (or even when politicians get money, eg: their salary is way too high and they also rob it) they will be chill
Hand-me-downs/heirloom pieces
Living with your parents as an adult and needing their financial support
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I suppose it is in the sense that she most certainly doesn’t need to. Well to do people I know from other countries complain they can’t get their kids to speak their language. The kids understand it, but always respond in english.
On some unsavory corners of the internet, ESL (english second language) is used like it’s an insult.
Bitch english is my fourth language the fuck are you talking about.
“Bitch English” is the language I speak aloud while writing an overly polite email to assholes.
My gay friends, whenever I would get sassy with them, would tell me, “Sorry sis, I don’t speak Biatchanese”. Always had us hollering.
That’s one of those “jokes” that says way more about the person telling it than the subject of it, in more ways than one.
I’m not sure what the terminology is in English, but in German, any language learned non-natively (so after the age of ~7) but in an immersion scenario is referred to as a second language (Zweitsprache), even if it’s the nth language where n>2. It actually indicates a greater mastery (especially in speaking) of the language than the other option: foreign language (Fremdsprache). My master’s program changed partway through from Deutsch als Fremdsprache to Deutsch als Fremd-/Zweitsprache in recognition of the fact that many of the graduates were going on to teach German in Germany.
Ironically, I’m a native English speaker, but I did my training in German, so I don’t know much technical terminology in English (as you can tell by the clunky-ass “immersion scenario” above; I don’t think “language bath” works in English, but I don’t know how to approach that sentence without conceptualizing immersion the way I would in German, as a Sprachbad so I ended up having to force a weird circumlocution).
so I ended up having to force a weird circumlocution Sorry to derail this a little as I’m aware you’re a native speaker, but you did remind me of my interactions with ESL Germans online, where they’d say “Apologies if my English isn’t great; there are gaps in my vernacular” or something wonderfully eloquent like that, that which always comes off as such a casual flex 😆
I think it’s actually caused by the same thing- I have a broad English vocabulary, but don’t know what sounds most natural in this case.
For another derailment, I had a eureka moment several years ago when I wanted to say “time flies” in a German conversation, but didn’t know if you’d say it exactly the same or say “the time flies,” (it’s actually “time flees” in Latin and die Zeit flieht in German, so I would have been wrong either way), so I just said “tempus fugit” with a German accent and suddenly realized why so many nonnative but super advanced English speakers use the original versions of international phrases (mostly Latin, but also things like “qué será, será,” instead of the same without accents or even “whatever will be, will be,” or “hotelier/hôtelier,” instead of “front desk worker”).
She speaks English(common) and Englisch(royal)
Immigrants, and also all of mainland Europe: Momentary confusion until we remember that secondary language is optional and frequently opted-out in some cultures.
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secondary language is optional and frequently opted-out in some cultures
When I (United Statesian) went to college, I was able to take a programming class (in Pascal) and use that to satisfy the foreign language requirement for graduation. Just absolute nonsense.
Sometimes three if you live in a zone where there is a second language on top of the more generalistic ones (talking about Catalunya, or Euskadi in Spain, for example).
and also all of mainland Europe
That’s a bit of an overgeneralization, at least in the Netherlands kids learn a couple words of English in elementary school, but for most I wouldn’t say they speak the language until well into highschool.
Whether you learn to speak a language has very little to do with school lessons anyhow. We had french from elementary school in the UK till I was 16, and I’d estimate my fluency at A2-B1. A combination of excessive focus on grammar, painfully slow lessons, and utterly no exposure outside of the classroom means nobody learns it. As an adult I’ve moved to another country speaking another language, attending language lessons, and I’m seeing this pattern again- the classmates who never use the language at home or work barely seem to make progress beyond a certain point, whereas those using it at home, socially or at work are making lightning fast progress.
Incidentally this is a big reason that it’s common for wealthy people to hire nannies or tutors that speak another language to live with their children and teach them.
It’s not as though passive exposure is enough on its own though - without at least some effort on behalf of both the learner and others, people don’t learn
In some places like Montréal, almost every immigrant kid speaks 3 languages, their native language (spanish, russian, chinese, etc), French, English.
I skimmed over this comment and started wondering who in this world has their 3 languages as spanish russian and chinese. Some interesting family, they must have.
Russia is right next to China, and Spanish is easier than English to learn
Her second language is Klingon. Don’t let her anywhere near the throne.
The British press and bootlicking the royal family, NAMID
She looks five in that photo. She is 11 now.
Since the objective of Lemmy is to replace Reddit and Facebook, we’re bound to see eternal reposts, more bots than humans, bigots and everything else.
Lemmy is not a replacement for Facebook. What goal does Facebook even serve?
Extracting money from the ignorant.
What goal does Facebook even serve?
Online victim shopping portal for Epstein class rapists?
we have friends in Spain with two small kids both under 10. They both speak Portuguese and Spanish with their mom, German with their dad and learn Spanish and Catalan in school.
Where meme?
Puerto Rico:
We all could if we started early enough. I didn’t get a language class option until high school, and by then it was almost too late. Americans should be taught English and Spanish in school from the first day of kindergarten. But, for now that’s a pipe dream, American public schools are a complete disaster at the moment.
Why? English isn’t my first language but I can’t think of a single time that knowing my native language (not Spanish) was necessary to accomplish something useful in the USA (other than talking to my family, which isn’t relevant for the children learning a foreign language in school). I can’t think of a single time that not knowing Spanish prevented me from accomplishing something useful, either.
I can’t think of a single time that not knowing Spanish prevented me from accomplishing something useful, either.
Then you’ve never experienced the secret menu at your local taco stand.
