Obi-wan lies to the kid about a lot of things, I just assumed he didn’t feel like getting in to the Anakin backstory anyways. Would you tell a kid about how his bio mom was an elite politician who hooked up with a much younger wannabe Jedi for reasons unclear to everyone involved and proceeded to go on a murderous rampage after getting denied a promotion he did not deserve right before he was born, which contributed to her death in childbirth?
Also, Luke asks Leia what she remembers about their mother. And the newly born Leia apparently had 2 seconds more with Padme, cause she remembers she often seemed sad. Darnation, don’t mess up your own storyline!
Not deserve? Listen, Anakin was on a lot of bullshit. But how can he be put on the council and not be granted the rank of master? This is the Jedi equivalent of telling you to teach six classes but denying tenure.
That wasn’t really the Jedi council’s fault. Sidious put them in an impossible situation asking Anakin to be his “person on the Jedi council”. They were doing their best to appease the Chancellor, not knowing at the time he was a Sith playing them.
The council were a bunch of fucking idiots (Windu especially), but this was one of those times they actually chose the best, worst option.
I don’t think anyone can seriously argue that Anakin’s skills were below the level of a master by Episode 3. They were being stingy in no small part because they hadn’t wanted him trained as a Jedi to begin with. They definitely didn’t want him as a peer.
They were doing their best to appease the Chancellor, not knowing at the time he was a Sith playing them.
Sure. They were playing a game of compromise, because they were too fixated on incremental victories and blind to the end game. That’s what ultimately spelled their downfall.
The council were a bunch of fucking idiots (Windu especially), but this was one of those times they actually chose the best, worst option.
I don’t think it would have made much of a difference. The Jedi were doomed as soon as they started surrounding themselves with Clone Troopers on active battlefields.
But even beyond that, the ultimate sin of the Jedi council was the (attempted) extermination of Sith Lords. They reaped what they’d sown. While Anakin was absolutely a whiny little shit, he wasn’t wrong when he proclaimed “From my perspective, it is the Jedi who are evil”. The Jedi held dominion over the Old Republic. The Jedi policed the Galaxy and imposed their orthodoxy at saber-point. The Jedi persecuted anyone who used the Force heretically, in no small part because of their own fears and megalomania.
It was the Jedi who unwittingly created the Galactic Empire entirely because they could not conceive of a Galaxy that wasn’t firmly under their control.
Obi-wan lies to the kid about a lot of things, I just assumed he didn’t feel like getting in to the Anakin backstory anyways. Would you tell a kid about how his bio mom was an elite politician who hooked up with a much younger wannabe Jedi for reasons unclear to everyone involved and proceeded to go on a murderous rampage after getting denied a promotion he did not deserve right before he was born, which contributed to her death in childbirth?
Obi-wan didn’t lie to Anakin but George lied to us
Also, Luke asks Leia what she remembers about their mother. And the newly born Leia apparently had 2 seconds more with Padme, cause she remembers she often seemed sad. Darnation, don’t mess up your own storyline!
Not deserve? Listen, Anakin was on a lot of bullshit. But how can he be put on the council and not be granted the rank of master? This is the Jedi equivalent of telling you to teach six classes but denying tenure.
That wasn’t really the Jedi council’s fault. Sidious put them in an impossible situation asking Anakin to be his “person on the Jedi council”. They were doing their best to appease the Chancellor, not knowing at the time he was a Sith playing them.
The council were a bunch of fucking idiots (Windu especially), but this was one of those times they actually chose the best, worst option.
I don’t think anyone can seriously argue that Anakin’s skills were below the level of a master by Episode 3. They were being stingy in no small part because they hadn’t wanted him trained as a Jedi to begin with. They definitely didn’t want him as a peer.
Sure. They were playing a game of compromise, because they were too fixated on incremental victories and blind to the end game. That’s what ultimately spelled their downfall.
I don’t think it would have made much of a difference. The Jedi were doomed as soon as they started surrounding themselves with Clone Troopers on active battlefields.
But even beyond that, the ultimate sin of the Jedi council was the (attempted) extermination of Sith Lords. They reaped what they’d sown. While Anakin was absolutely a whiny little shit, he wasn’t wrong when he proclaimed “From my perspective, it is the Jedi who are evil”. The Jedi held dominion over the Old Republic. The Jedi policed the Galaxy and imposed their orthodoxy at saber-point. The Jedi persecuted anyone who used the Force heretically, in no small part because of their own fears and megalomania.
It was the Jedi who unwittingly created the Galactic Empire entirely because they could not conceive of a Galaxy that wasn’t firmly under their control.
There’s more to it than mere skills, though. It’s also supposed to require learning and wisdom, which Anakin defintely lacked.
Exactly, he definitely lacked maturity and patience. And of course the ability to not kill a bunch of kids because he was throwing a tantrum:p
There was clearly some maturity and wisdom missing before he could go there…
Not only is it outrageous… its also completely unfair!
Nah, just give him a laser sword and let him fuck shit up