If this is really the best of humanity that will weather the storm, we could be doomed after all.
Why do people keep saying or assuming that these are the best of humanity? These literally are the leeches of humanity, the narcissistic antisocial hoarders who think they’re the cream of the crop and obviously the only ones deserving of survival of the disaster they helped create.
Fuck these people, I hope they all die in a fire or something, humanity will be off better
Ew imagine having to share a bunker with a bunch of stanky, ugly, fat pedophiles…
some kids will have to. Imagine that.
These people are such morons. It would take about 2 minutes of an intro level Anthropology class to learn that for like 95% of human history we lived in small groups like this — so we’re definitely able to do it — but they only worked because they were (mostly) egalitarian. They absolutely don’t work when group members consistently value themselves over the group.
They weren’t necessarily egalitarian, but they all involved a sense of duty to the community the ability to reinvent the structure of the community, and the freedom to leave. They were also smaller than this. But yeah this is a bunch of people who don’t understand how to function in a community like this.
Also I’m not certain why these people are already living in the bunkers
Let them fight.
Never understood these bunkers in modern times.
If TSHTF so hard that someone truly needs to bunker up for months on end civilization as we know it will likely be at an end. No coming back from it. Congrats, you survived to enjoy the death of everything we know. Heck knows they didn’t store a hoard of raw materials, tools, physical books full of knowledge, farm implements, seeds, and have ready access to individuals with year 1895 level skills to make it all work. They only thought of themselves and stored some food, lots of booze, and a little medicine, figuring they could jet off to some safe haven when it was convenient.
If it were even the 1950s I think there would still be enough of a reservoir of local material and knowledge, and everything was mostly manually skilled labor to create, so bunkering could have worked out. But not today. Global supply chains, relocated resource extraction and manufacturing, and everything computerized has virtually guaranteed the impossibility of bootstrapping modern civilization should it fail.
They’re just as dead, but they get to enjoy roving starving humans trying to kill them over whatever’s left.
Depends on the extinction event. There are plenty of scenarios (well not plenty, but enough) where most people die and supply chains are wiped out, but there are still libraries and warehouses full of shit (home depots, Amazon warehouses, and so on). Pharmacies would be good for raiding, too. Also farmer bob and his family died, but all of his shit is still there on his farm ready to be taken.
And you can get generators with three fuel sources, not to mention that solar panels are readily available and generally easy to put together for a janky half-assed set up, so anything that needs electricity can still be used. (Did somebody say power tools? Did somebody say well pump? Did somebody say small flow treatment system? Did somebody say refrigeration?)
And preppers (not all, but likely many) do amass survival books, encyclopedias and “medicine for dummies” books, and any of them that are serious are practicing Bushcraft enough to have a working knowledge of that.
I’m guessing the bunker is actually there to ride out the people killing other people to take their resources phase. Maybe a nuclear bomb?
Myself, I’m a half-assed homesteader, which is like being a prepper without all of the white supremacy stuff that goes with it. If there were an extinction event, and I somehow lived through it, I think I would last a couple more months than your average joe, but I doubt I would live into old age.
Well said. I was wondering why not just treat the world and its people well and they can continue to have their own private land to do whatever. Seems like hell if you’re stuck in a bunker without the modern world at your fingertips. Seems foolish to me as well.
So, ever been to Utah? No saying they are fully prepared… But their mutant spawn may make it out to kill each other over the scraps if it’s not a total wipe of life.
There’s people that might survive, I’m thinking like the Amish. But even they depend on modern society at some level for materials. If anyone would make it it would be a group like that, someone already without modern tools as much as possible.
Yep.
It will have to be those with a strong commitment to community and preparation. Which will mean people with “faith” in the future they probably won’t see.
So, that will exclude most of the narcissistic oligarchy. Though some are narcissistic enough about their own lineage to spawn a cult of personality for the continuation of their brood…
They will however continue to hoard resources enough to weather the more likely minor civil disturbances their actions are certain to cause. Wich is the real motive for some.
You would have thought that the people making these shelters would have learned from Covid that they simply can’t crawl in a hole and stay safe. The wealthy are used to soft easy living and a underclass of people who do what they tell them to because of their money.
If we really had a society ending disease or event they wouldn’t last two weeks before they came out of their bunkers looking for entertainment because they were bored. You couldn’t tell most of them to stay inside or even wear a fucking mask during Covid.
On top of that they may have the skills to make money but the skills a P.E. Investor has from raiding healthy companies and pilfering assets is not the same skill set needed to lead people when money has no meaning and/or form collective groups to survive.
Without a government and its protection, the wealthy are just going to end up dead with the head of security for the bunker fucking their trophy wife.
So… become the head of security for a billionare, got it.
A consultant reported that billionaires, when confronted with the idea that the private security team have incentive to continue to obey the billionaire once society had collapsed, asked tge consultant how they could msintain control of the security team, such as if shock/explosive collars or locking up all the food would work.
The consultant suggested they simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend.
The billionaires then became concerned, and I shit you not, asked “but where does that end?”
I’ll try to find the link to add it here.
Edit: Here it is.
Have you seen billionaire wives? I’ll pass
Oh I wouldn’t care for the wife so much, in fact I’d likely throw her out as well, but a free fully stocked doomsday bunker sounds pretty nifty.
They usually hire ex special forces for that role
Yeah… No billionaire knows how to exist without exploiting labour. They aren’t going to be going into their bunkers without security, chefs, cleaners, or entertainers. There’s so much cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe that the government/world is going to be destroyed, but you will safe and still have a legal right to property.
The only thing that maintains their wealth is the legal and economic system they use to exploit other people’s work. Without it their property is just going to be seized by the first person who is quicker on the draw.
Much like the petty grievances plaguing often overbearing homeowners’ associations, investors of a purportedly “five-star” bunker in rural South Dakota called Vivos xPoint…
Um, South Dakota? The South Dakota that is a central region of America’s nuclear sponge, where nuclear strikes at the USA’s nuclear missile silos would likely hit? That South Dakota is where these geniuses plan to weather the apocalypse?
“But it’s remote and rural”
Yeah that’s why the nuclear silos are there. Putting a “nuke this first” target in Chicago would be stupid
Relying on a company to support you in an apocalypse event is outrageous amounts of cope
Only a third of the individual properties — which can be bought for up to $55,000 plus rent and service fees — are occupied at the moment, according to the WSJ.
Yeah no, this is not a place for wealthy people. Fucking clickbait title.
Sounds like people just moved in instead of buying a real house.
Have none of these people or their handlers every heard of Fallout? Even the control vaults usually end up eating themselves.
love how one of the safest vaults, 88 i think it was, was only safe because the science team failed to introduce the plan
a man who moved into one of the units with his wife, his daughter, and her four children, pulled a gun on a Vivos contractor who had pulled up with a front-end loader to his bunker.
Yeah that tracks.
These aren’t “the wealthy” - most of these are priced at $50k-75k. That’s prepper nutjob price ranges and it’s no surprise that they’re shooting people with front end loaders since obviously it’s the government disguised as the company workers, coming to dig them out and take their guns.
The people who are actually wealthy have the means to not live in a hole in South Dakota surrounded by other people in their own holes. Their hole in the ground will be somewhere much less advertised.
These aren’t the control vaults. They are the experiment vaults.
Yeah, IIRC Zuck’s bunker is in New Zealand, because it’s theoretically farthest from radiation fallout during a nuclear event.
It’s in kauai, hawaii. Specifically, right here:
22.2016232, -159.3485761
Where are the other Rat nests?
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/coordinate_precision.png
At least we now know where waldo is in zucks bunker
In this case, it’s just the default number of sig figs Google maps gives. The satellite view literally shows the big hole being dug for the bunker, too.
Oh I guess it was some other billionaire who had one in NZ.
NZ does the “golden passport” thing, so lots of billionaires have bought citizenship there. Maybe Peter Theil was the one in headlines for making a compound there?
I like all the people saying “But these aren’t billionaires!” As if billionaires are some different type of people incapable of being moronic paranoid preppers who will bring about their own demise through their own stupidity.
During one particularly hairy incident, a man who moved into one of the units with his wife, his daughter, and her four children, pulled a gun on a Vivos contractor who had pulled up with a front-end loader to his bunker.
The resident eventually shot the contractor, injuring him. However, South Dakota’s stand-your-ground law led to a grand jury declining to indict him.
It’s telling that one of these billionaires was the type to kill a worker trying to do their job near his property. And “stand your ground” laws were created by and for gun nuts who want to murder someone. Change my mind…
Like the other commenter noted, these aren’t rich people, they are prepper types. A billionaire isnt getting a $55k bunker.
The guy who did the shooting is apparently a former cop turned EMT.
The person he shot also wasn’t a worker trying to do his job, it was a guy who worked for the company who told a mutual acquaintance that he was going to that guy’s house specifically to attack him. When he got there, he asked the guy if he’d ever killed someone, and then he said he had killed someone with his bare hands. He then started going at the guy, who shot him and then immediately rendered aid.
Not to defend a guy eho is probably a nutjob and a jerk, it sounds like a reasonable act of self defense to me.
Not that I don’t believe you, but do you have a link to those details? They certainly aren’t in this article…
I think it’s because the article is trying to paint a picture that may not exactly fit the reality. But I didn’t read it anyway, this comment thread looks more interesting
Yeah, I thought it was strange because famously a grand jury will indict anything, but there werent any details in the article, so I looked one up with more detail.
Who would have thought confining some of the most self-centred, egotistical, greedy and morally flexible people together in a living situation might not work out.
Shocker…
It’s kind of like their own punishment. They’ll laugh as they descend into their bunkers, thinking “no one can get in!” Not knowing that the exits will be boarded up.
At last, one of them will emerge, after having ate the other occupants - children included - and they will be met by a crowd of brown people (global warming caused “white genocide”).
The crowd will then drag the surviving billionaire to a down square, where they’ll be submerged into a vat of liquid metal, forming a statue with a horrid look on it’s face, to be mounted on a block with a placard titled “The Last Billionaire”.
STOP! I cant get any harder and it aint going down anytime soon
Have you tried flicking it?
In a manner of speaking
Can I vote for you? You seem like leadership.
“I’m not locked in with you, you’re locked in with me”, but they all believe they’re the “me”
Nah. These bunkers all have air holes and we have a lot of concrete :)
Fresh fish is also an option
They think no one can get in, we think none of them will ever get out.
Can we just fake a catastrophe now to get them to all go in?
But wait! What if we buy a cruise ship and sell the cabins on it as law-free estate for these freaks? Certainly that one has to work out, right?!
