My biggest complaint with Live Action Trek vs the two Animation shows is that they seem obsessed with giving us a black ship on a black background. It’s nice to be given a reprieve, even if for only one episode.
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I’ve had to download higher quality episodes as the lighting has made higher compression unviewable.
I definitely prefer the darker version, it seems a lot less artificial. To me, the brighter ship looks rendered, as if I was looking at a video games’ screenshot.
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Oh, thanks, I didn’t know that. I’m not much into the animated stuff.
On first glance it could’ve been from Picard S03 which had a similar aesthetic that didn’t work for me. Too clean, too polished, too much video game.
100% agree. Still not as bad as the darkness on GoT. The entire damn episode was just a black screen.
the two Animation shows
RIP prodigy
I’ve never understood the complaints about lighting on the new treks. We’re watching on big HDR enabled screens now, the lighting is appropriate for them.
You guys have hdr?
And here I am on a 1080p plasma screen from 2011. Because it just will not die! Which, is a good thing I guess.
Yeah we only got 4k tvs when the 1080p one from. 2008 died a few years back, well it’s not dead, it’s in my office as the crappy spare with a giant smudge at the top. Still usable but ugly. And a line.
But I love the oled 4k TV it cost less than the 1080 did originally.
It’s not even HDR. I’m a TNG fanboy, and one of the reasons is just because the show is bright. The ship sets are bright, etc. Even VOY and DS9 don’t get this quality, and while SNW is probably the best, new Trek gets nowhere close.
Oh man. I work in the post industry professionally - on the documentary side, but honestly 10bit HDR (HDR10) and 12bit (Dolby Vision) are the REAL technological leaps in quality NOT 4K/UHD.
Sure resolution is nice and all, but if you have a capatible TV, we can literally force change your local settings to optimize what we want you to see (people ever notice Dolby Vision settings turn on and grey out your own settings). Being able to change your TV’s color settings natively directly to what we wanted out of the box in post is by far the biggest tech advancement in post to home video in decades. UHD is 4x the pixels but HDR is up to 16 billion more colors. Trust me, it’s worth the upgrade.
It’s been standard on TVs for years now?
I only change TVs when they die. Mine is 12 years old.
Yeah, I’m not sure who’s going out buying a new TV every couple of years.
If say I’ve upgraded at least every five years since having my own place and a living room to put it in. I do do a lot of gaming though so having all the latest features are important to me. That being said my parents seem to upgrade theirs as often now.
Christ, that’s ancient in TV terms. Is it even 4k?
Lol, my tv is a 40" from 2008.
Even my boomer parents are rocking a more up to date TV than that, lol.
Tons of people don’t have HDR yet. It takes a while for tech to spread, especially when it’s not something many people are gunna go replace a several hundred dollar device for, nor is it necessarily a selling point when shopping for new TVs.
I thought my 4k smart tv was new enough to have it by default since I bought it in 2019, but it doesn’t.
Really, I’m on my second HDR enabled screen now and that was from 2020, the previous one dated back to 2016 and had it.
My tv is from 2012. It’s got colors AND sounds!
Does it have smells though?
Just checked - dust and warm plastic. I guess if I was watching Toy Story 2 or 3 it would be appropriate.
Yes, really.
Maybe you are spending more than I am on your TVs, but even after it became more common it still wasn’t standard apparently. It wasn’t something I looked for or knew to look for, being one of those things that isn’t really a selling point for most people and all.
The only reason I even know mine doesn’t have it is video games, I just found out a few months back, and frankly I just set the gama high within the game and call it good. Been doing that for many many years. The whites are more blinding than they used to be but that’s about it. Frankly I assumed the problem was with the backlighting.
I just assumed the media issue was, in fact, a media issue (which it -abso-fucking-lutely is-! If you need a special [even if common] TV device format to correct for your shit production quality by default, ya dun fucked up your production, that’s on you, not the people watching it) and went about my day oblivious as always. :)
Part of the issue is compression. Most modern compression algorithms bias towards light areas of the picture. On high bandwidth streams, this is no issue. If the stream is highly compressed, the backs can become blocky and details are lost.
On top of this are suboptimal viewing conditions. Non HDR, background light, or poorly configured (or limited capability) screens. All of these punish the black parts of the image more than the bright.
I can’t speak to the compression on P+ as I’m in the UK so most new Trek is on Netflix, Amazon or the high seas for me and I haven’t noticed much blocking it artifacts even on a 65 inch screen.
I think I optimal viewing conditions are the biggest issue. People who don’t know how to set up and calibrate their TV or watch on an inappropriate device like a laptop, tablet or phone.
I’m not surprised directors like Lynch and Nolan get annoyed. They put all the works into making the best cinema experience, then people ruin it by leaving motion-clarity on on their TV or watching on a six inch screen with tinny headphones on the way to work.
You mean you are?
If you’re not, it’s time to upgrade. The rest of us shouldn’t get a subpar product because some people aren’t up to date. I mean, TOS was partly designed to help sell colour televisions back in the day, being on the forefront of tech is part of the franchise.
That sounds a bit rude and pretentious.
Not everyone wants the latest, highest dynamic, fidelity, wibbly wobbly TV.
Some are pretty content with colours and not a blurry picture.Besides, not everyone can afford one.
Literally a ship in space with next to no light.
The live action version is more realistic.
the extra light comes from the same place as the music actually
I see, the camera just has a sun attached to it then? cool. no problem.
Not just any sun, they use the sun.
It’s a huge inconvenience for people in Sector 001 every time they need to borrow Sol to shoot more exterior shots of the various ships for the historical documents.
Err, wrong IP there, @beefcat. “The Historical Documents” isn’t from Star Trek, it’s from BSG.
It’s. Galaxy Quest reference, and as we all know Galaxy Quest is one of the top 3 best Star Trek movies.
Not to mention my favorite work of Tellerite cinema.
There’s these things called “stars” most planets with life on them have them very close by in the cosmic scale of things, and if you look up pictures of the ISS under one you’ll see it’s actually quite bright…
Thanks captain
