you did nothing
Bitch, I haven’t killed a single bee since this conversation started. Stop blaming me for the dead bees. I’ve gone out of my way to be nice to bees.
I killed one bee extra per bee to offset your commitment.
I mean… We still don’t know why the honey bee is dying (yes, specifically the honey bee. Other bees seem to be doing OK).
Yes, it could be the industry, or it could be climate change, or it could be the use of pesticides… But while it could be all of those things, none of those things fit entirely.
So even if a whole lot of people are willing to do something to prevent the honey bee population from going poof… We wouldn’t know what to do exactly.
My understanding is that honey bees are dying in farmed environments in the USA. Basically farmers will pay these large bee hive companies to bring bees in tractor trailers to their farm and let them out for a period of time to help pollutant their fields. These bees are the ones having record die offs, but from what I understand the die offs are less than the number of new bees being made.
Basically the efficiency of the corporate farming operation is decreasing, but the captive bee population is fine.
If someone out there knows better and has source information I would love to be corrected.
Wait, this is not true. At least not in Europe. Honey bees are not dying, on the contrary. There are too many of them and biodiversity drops around their hives. Save the bees has never been about the honey bee.
The conflation of Apis Mellifera with the native species that we actually need is one of my biggest pet peeves.
That’s an interesting statement from a company that’s owned by Clorox
You’re telling me a shrimp lipped that balm?
It’s balm made from shrimp lips.
*those in power did fucking nothing
If enough individual people who own land with yards grew native plants and flowering bushes and stopped using so much pesticide outside, it would make a huge difference.
It would do wonders but not for this issue. The only bees that are dying are industrially farmed bees. Making it somehow your fault is another amazing trick by thr corpos to shift the blame for what they do on people who has nothing to do with it.
Stop doing lawns is a good idea though, regardlessWe’re also losing native species. Both bees and wasps.
who own land
Let me stop you right there…
…And on the slim chance you got past that hurdle…
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While true, “we did fucking nothing” is also entirely true. The fast majority of humans don’t give a shit about the environment. No matter their wealth and power. It’s only a lot more noticable and harmful when Jeff Bezos flies to space. But let’s be real here. If aberage Joe White (43) had the means to fly to space, he would do so without a second thought of the environment!
We’re dealing with a pandemic of selfish assholes and one of its symptoms are selfish billionaires who destroy in seconds what a few thousand conservationists achieved in a year!
It’s a systemic issue, so pointing fingers at any one entity is not going to be helpful.
Go to any garden center. What proportion of plants sold are actually native and beneficial to the area? Let’s say you want a grass lawn. What does the path of least resistance to getting that look like? What species are planted? What chemicals are used? What are the dominant practices around that?
These questions don’t even touch commercial agriculture, which comes with issues on a much larger scale, but it’s out of sight for most.
If we are to change our ways for the better it’s going to have to be a complete realignment in all areas from top to bottom.
In North America, honey bees are an invasive species that cannot effectively pollinate native plants, but compete with native pollinators for resources and spread disease. They only exist here to make money for their owner while degrading our collective environment. When you hear about honey bee colonies collapsing, that is perversely a GOOD THING.
I would do further reading on this, and not just rely on the “hot take” from one progressive youtuber. It’s a lot more nuanced and complicated than this.
Do you have a source on this? First I’ve read about honey bees being invasive.
If the claim were about yellow jackets I would believe it as they are still pollenators but not as effective as honey bees. Not to mention I see way more wasps, hornets and yellow jackets than honey bees combined in a single season. I’ll see maybe one honey bee (if I’m lucky) a year in northern Ohio, but the latter are everywhere up here.
Its much more nuanced than that. Honey Bees are not native, but that does not technically make them invasive by most definitions. Oversaturation on a local ecosystem can push out native bees in some cases (maybe)…
As for the claim about them not being effective pollinators… Ive not come across anything that would make me believe that yet. In fact my understand was that its specifically because theyre good pollinators that they outcompete native species. Without additional information those two statements are incompatible.
They can spread diseases, but my understanding is that this is a result of the conditions the artificial colonies are kept in, not attributed to their inherent nature or biology, and might happen to any species that is subjected to those environments.
“Colony collapses are a good thing” does not pass the smell test in any capacity and I would disregard that opinion without some significant evidence to back it up.
Thanks for the informative link! Didn’t know they were not native to NA at all. The message here has always been “take care of the honey bees!” and that slogan now has a different meaning to me.
“Colony collapses are a good thing” does not pass the smell test in any capacity and I would disregard that opinion without some significant evidence to back it up.
Yeah, it seems like a pretty naive zero-sum outlook on competition between native pollinators and European honeybee colonies maintained by beekeepers.
Colony collapse disorder of honeybee colonies, if caused by land use and pesticides and pollution and things like that, can be an indicator of the native pollinator population also hurting from the same causes, rather than some kind of opportunity for native species to get the upper hand in the competition.
Also, nobody is talking about beetles. Beetles are one of THE biggest pollinating insects and are suffering massive decline, but I guess people are far more concerned with bees because they’re kinda cute.
This guy is a giant wasp, don’t listen to him. He’s just trying to distract you so he can drink all the soda in your house
Most people don’t go out of their way to learn about animal exploitation. But you definitely SHOULD. Please look it up and report back to us what you learned.
Hmmm, make claim on internet. Don’t back up claim. Insisit I do my own research. Pretty Trolly take stranger.
Shrimp flavoured or shrimp scented?
Shrimp textured.
Made of shrimp but smells of anaphylaxis
If this were a real product, I would guess it’d be using the shrimp shells to make gelatin or something out of. In that case, neither, unless they added flavor/scent.
Honestly though, I think I could enjoy and Old Bay scented and flavored lip balm.
Yes
First one, then the other.
Thanks for the laugh
Shrimp balmed lip
makes my mouth swell up just like the real thing! Boy do I love food allergies
Makes it way easier to convince cats to kiss me
Honey bees aren’t at risk of extinction
Ain’t nobody going to educate the millions of people who don’t give two shits about facts and science about the vast diversity of bee species and other flying insects.
If people start doing more to help “honey bees” broadly like growing wild flowering plants and reducing pesticide use, it will also help the other native species.
Let me put it another way, we need to BE VERY CAREFUL about trying to over-lecture about this kind of situation. We’re in a climate where trying to teach people knowledge isn’t received as a gift or benefit. Teachers are tuning their lessons for 7-minute attention spans and high emotional sensitivity, we all need to do the same.
Sometimes jokes where the punchline are based around absurdity will simplify or ignore the nuance of reality for the sake of a joke.
But the other bees and pollinators are. And thats scary.
The distinction is key. Honeybees are one of the biggest reason other Bees and native pollinators are going extinct. Honey bees are voracious foragers and will out compete almost all other pollinators.
There are anti honey bee non profits with missions between eradicating honey bee nests they find to just relocating them to places where they can be used for monocrops.
If the extreme native pollinator crowd got their way we would all be fucked as honey bees currently account for 75% of ag pollination, with the remainder mostly being self pollinated plants.
If they keep making them into lip balm they are
What’s next? Bacon perfume?
WTF! I better not say anything, it turns out to be real!
Personally, I find the fact that they take pains to point out that it’s vegan and cruelty free the most offensive since
1: pointing it out kinda implies that they expect people to expect meat byproducts and cruelty from their perfumes and
2: the Venn diagram of people who would want a bacon perfume and people who are vegan and/or are actively conscious about animal testing and other cruelty associated with consumerism probably features infinitesimal overlap, if any 😄
Perfumes are often made with some animal part to carry the good smell chemicals. Notable examples are whale shit and beaver anal glands. The glands get banned, and then the industry finds and targets a new animal (heard at a perfume tour).
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How could I not love this?
