• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
      11·
      19 hours ago

      I mean, for the sake of the hypothetical, perhaps we assume that Wolverine has undergone a deep religious awakening and has decided to convert to Judaism entirely out of his own free will as an adult of sound mind and body!

      • Nanook@lemmy.zip
        3·
        19 hours ago

        Sound mind? If we agree there is something wrong with cutting half an ear off as an adult, why not when slicing off part of a dick? Because of God? So delusional as well.

  • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
    163·
    2 days ago

    I strongly disagree. He can be circumcised, again and again and again! A ocean safe alternative to calamari!

    • Hofmaimaier@feddit.orgOP
      58·
      2 days ago

      Hold up! We could end world hunger! Just like wood supplies, with a permanently lying pinocchio…

        • hansolo@lemmy.today
          231·
          2 days ago

          Yeah. It’s a real criteria to vegan food, it has to be given with consent. It’s an intentional thing to exclude animals and animal-derived products, like milk or honey.

          • cynar@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            2 days ago

            There’s an interesting argument that honey can be vegan, by that criteria.

            A bee colony is not generally trapped in a hive. They are capable of leaving, if it’s not to their standards, or they find somewhere between. The catch is that artificial bee hives are amazing for bees, compared to natural locations. The only catch is the “rent” taken by the eldritch creatures. They never take too much however, only taking excess the hive doesn’t need.

            Basically bees could be argued to be paying rent, in honey, for high quality accommodation.

            • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2·
              1 day ago

              only taking excess the hive doesn’t need

              My dad’s a beekeeper, and I’ve had the (dis)pleasure of helping him with his post-retirement hobby.

              He extracts honey after every nectar flow throughout the year. Usually there’s 3-6 of those, depending on how much it’s rained.

              Every single winter, he has to feed the bees sugar water and sugar bricks instead of giving them the honey they worked hard to create in the preceding seasons so they don’t die. This practice was the moment I considered beekeeping unethical because he’s robbing the bees of their agency, and controlling their diet. Controlling animals and their behaviors by stealing from them isn’t ethical. It’s placing bees in a permanent subservient state as they keep making more and more and more honey, when in the wild they’d only make as much as they need.

              Couple that with how my dad also sets up swarm traps such that when the bees leave and take off from their old hive because it was unsuitable, they’re often re-captured and sent right back to the slave camp.

              And let’s not kid ourselves about the quality of beehives. Biological threats like the parasitic varroa mite, hive beetles, ants, moths, and an assortment of other bugs are always on the attack to steal honey. If not caught in time with things like detergent, diatomaceous earth, or gas fumigation, this can destroy an entire box of honey, let alone the hive itself. My dad has to constantly be on the lookout for these threats, and use chemicals that often also impact the bees themselves. So he’s sacrificing some of the hive to save the rest of it. The “high quality accomodation” is a facade.

              Then you have to speak about the numerous impacts honeybees have to the surrounding environment, like spreading viruses, hogging resources over other pollinators, fighting other bees, etc. That’s not ethical either, as much as we like to use honeybees to pollinate our own domesticated foods.

              Animals of every kind deserve agency, autonomy, control over their behaviors and resources, free movement, and the right to protect themselves. Hobbyist and industrial beekeeping rejects all of this.

          • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
            141·
            2 days ago

            I get the ethics of that concept. however… it is a tool we can use?

            Horror level sci fi thought experiment that has no material relevance, only an abstract though experiment.

            let’s say I use artificial selection to breed intelligent animals that will consent (yhea, far fetched, but it’s a thought experiment so let’s accept that premise). you might point that consent ends when the breeding program began, but all I had to do is take away candidates that aren’t good from the breeding pool and let them breed freely. That as consentual as wildlife breeding gets.

            would eating the meat of those animals be vegan?

            fuck there’s a Rick and Morty episode about that.

            • grue@lemmy.world
              23·
              2 days ago

              Horror level sci fi

              Or comedy-level sci-fi.

              https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Ameglian_Major_Cow

              The creature offers Zaphod and his party his shoulder, braised in a white wine sauce, then goes on to offer other parts of its body, having worked hard to fatten itself up through force-feeding itself for months. Eventually, after Arthur and Trillian have expressed their shock and Ford has expressed his disinterest, Zaphod requests four rare steaks and the Dish of the Day goes off to shoot himself, telling Arthur not to worry, as he says “I’ll be very humane.”

            • hansolo@lemmy.today
              3·
              2 days ago

              A better middle ground: graft genetically modified pork onto a human for like a day.

              OR… Find people losing weight from ozempic and have them get surgery to remove excess skin. Sell it as “lab-grown meat.”

          • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
            101·
            2 days ago

            … […]and yet the willingly offered menstrual black pudding and psoriasis crackling again remained untouched at the vegan dinner party.

            Edit: Just realised black pudding might be a bit too regional. Black pudding (wiki link) is a “sliced blood sausage”

            • myster0n@feddit.nlEnglish
              8·
              2 days ago

              Yeah, well, part II of something being vegan is that it has to be accepted with consent as well.

              • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
                4·
                2 days ago

                I imagine you can get psoriasis on most skin on your body - but you can’t “catch it” from someone else, even if you did eat fried skin-flakes at a party.

              • bizarroland@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                2 days ago

                Not really. The cells in your mouth shed so quickly that psoriasis would be the same as normal for them, so even if you did have it, you probably would never be able to tell.

          • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
            4·
            2 days ago

            Huh, til I thought it was mainly “no animal or animal bi products” not just from the consent portion

  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
    16·
    2 days ago

    You absolutely can circumcise Wolverine he just won’t stay that way for very long, if anything he’s the most circumcisable guy ever because you can do it over and over again

  • Sausager@lemmy.world
    43·
    2 days ago

    Mutants typically gain their powers at puberty. If he was circumcized as a baby would it regrow when he gets his powers? Or just heal stuff from that point forward? Or was wolverine unique in that he always had his healing powers?

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    2 days ago

    Why aren’t his earlobes and nose really long, given he’s over 200 years old, and a lot of old people have extra growth in their nose and ear cartilage? I’m sorry, but until this is addressed in comics, I just can’t believe Wolverine is real.

    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      1 day ago

      Easy, with his lifestyle his ears and nose are definitely younger than 200 years; he’s lost and had to regrow them several times both on paper and on screen.

    • Mister_Feeny@fedia.io
      7·
      2 days ago

      Because his healing factor gives him the body of someone in like their mid-30’s, not the body of a really old person that would have extra growth in their nose and ear cartilage?

  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    20·
    2 days ago

    Technically untrue, it just doesn’t last. Similarly, he can have his ears pierced, but the jewelry will quickly be expelled or subsumed. 🥲

    • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 days ago

      Now I’m imagining wolverine putting in loop earrings and his skin just grows overtop of them until it looks like flesh earrings

      • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        Your body can actually reject piercings naturally, so that’s likely what would have happened with him.

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        Don’t even start down the biomod rabbit hole that could’ve been.

        Or, do, but please get someone fromWhat If… on the line, too. 🤪

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    16·
    2 days ago

    Reminds me of True Blood where one of the characters loses her virginity after becoming a vampire. So every time she wanted to have sex, she would have to painfully break her hymen all over again because it kept regrowing.

    EDIT: It was Deborah Ann Woll’s character “Jessica Hamby”, so not a minor character.

      • jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev
        8·
        2 days ago

        Few of us would have been told that it can change with age, that some of us aren’t born with one, or that it might totally disappear by the time we enter sexual maturity anyway. Or that a wide variety of activity can stretch or tear it, from exercise to masturbation to, yes, penetrative sex.

        Emphasis mine, this is what I was taught in school

        But this doesn’t mean there’s any validity to the idea that you can ascertain sexual activity with a hymen examination. One small study of 36 pregnant teenagers published in 2004, for example, found that medical staff were only able to make “definitive findings of penetration” in two cases. Another 2004 study found that 52% of sexually active adolescent girls interviewed had “no identifiable changes to the hymenal tissue”. A binary idea that either we are sexually active and have no visible hymen, or that we aren’t sexually active and do have one, is simply not accurate.

        So TIL, it’s not actually a membrane and is not guaranteed to tear at some point. Really interesting read, and definitely an example of how women’s health research is just riddled with misinformation