This GIMP issue means nothing to me, and I refuse to let a puritan (almost The Handmaid’s Tale-like) crew dictate societal norms.
Fix your title. The answer is “no”. People are getting the wrong idea.
From GIMP team: We are NOT rebranding GIMP
Take a time to read the commit messages and the commit diff.
Hear me out… Everything doesn’t have to be an acronym.
EDHTBAA, got it
I dunno, I was fine with GNU Image Manipulation Program.
So, we’ll pronounce it “Wilbur”?
I’m sure those in charge of this had the argument and went 'round and 'round with it. And, this is what they came up with.
Whatever, we’ll get used to it, but I’m not sure it’s a good idea. It will probably hurt brand recognition more than the mildly-offensive “GIMP” ever has. At least when noobs heard “gimp”, their ears would perk up in mild surprise, and they’d ask what it is, there-by solidifying the product in their minds. “Wilbur” just won’t have the same effect, because there’s no surprise. They’ll ask, but the impact will not be as great, and they’ll forget. “Wilbur” is forgettable as a name for anything, or anyone. “Gimp” is not.
What on God’s green earth is WLBR supposed to mean? Why can’t it have a normal, good name?
Linux devs are not good at naming things lol
Can’t deploy gunicorn workers without thinking of a unicorn with a gun where it’s horn is supposed to be.
Wilber is a name.
Its the name of the dog thing in the GIMP logo
Ah fuck, if Gif vs Gif all over again.
Too bad Krita sucked for my express purpose of shitposting when I tried that.
I feel like GIMP is (as of writing) the only good, still maintained thing still on “gn*me.org”
The great thing about foss is you can call it whatever you want, fork it even if you feel so inclined.
I mean, so long as it remains configurable and they don’t change the entire project. I don’t see an issue with giving folks the option to mask the name in environments where they might not want to attract anyone’s ire.
Ive found GIMP hard to use honestly… I suspect it will end up being replaced entirely by AI
Why the rename? Trademark issues?
At that point just change it to BEKKNQV
I think they should keep both names and just have WLBR be the “enterprise” version.
However, in non-English speaking countries, nobody has an issue with GIMP. And even my very religious and Murican MIL uses Gimp. She doesn’t even know.
If anything, those discussions further the association, as they come up when you google “gimp program sexual” or sth like that.
It’s short for GNU image manipulation program. I mean, you could short it to imp, or rename it to Picture & Image Manipulation Program (PIMP).
the issue isn’t the kink association. The issue is that the word used to be used as a slur for disabled folks.
I think they should keep both names and just have WLBR be the “enterprise” version.
there’s an enterprise version?
I propose Scriptable Image Manipulation Program (SIMP)
SIMPly genius!
Scriptable High Resolution Image Manipulation Program
Scriptable Huge Image Tool
Pimp it is then!
I’m partial to SIMP
It must be something that can’t possibly be construed as sexual innuendo, like Linux Image Manipulation Program (LIMP)…
It’s a GNU program, not a Linux program. It runs on multiple platforms.
eg: the Windows Image Manipulation System
Not the strongest name. Sounds kinda weak.
Maybe “Photographic Image Manipulation Program”?
Windows
Linux
BSD
Ringo (apple)image editor.
Gimp is really just a rare/archaic ableist slur anyway - like to refer to someone with a limp or otherwise a leg/lack of a leg that impedes their gait. I’ve never heard it used in my life.
The sexual usage is from gay bdsm subculture in the 70s that the large majority of ppl who are aware of it are only aware because of Pulp Fiction.
My vote is for pimp
The sexual usage is from gay bdsm subculture in the 70s that the large majority of ppl who are aware of it are only aware because of Pulp Fiction.
I had heard gimp/gimpy used to mean “limping or is otherwise gait-impaired” often enough that I assumed the Pulp Fiction character was called the Gimp because of his posture and gait. I was completely unaware of any scene/subculture meaning until reading threads like these.
Full disclosure about my own experience: I am a disabled person who has no strong emotional reaction to the term. I do limp, some days worse than others.
I wonder if it’s a regional thing? I’ve only ever heard it in movies or older TV shows. Where I live people are much more likely to just say “crippled” or describe someone as walking with a limp.
I was confused when I saw Pulp Fiction as a kid because I was like “why is this handicapped guy in a leather suit and what does him being hadicapped have to do with his apparent hobbies” lol. But like I said, never really heard it used in other contexts.
Gimp is really just a rare/archaic ableist slur anyway - like to refer to someone with a limp or otherwise a leg/lack of a leg that impedes their gait. I’ve never heard it used in my life.
I’ve only heard it used that way once in my life. When I was in high school (about 20 years ago), I hurt my leg while playing basketball and was on crutches for a few weeks. This one kid in one of my classes constantly referred to me as “gimp” throughout my recovery.
Ive heard people say something “was gimped” to mean it was bad, weak, reduced, crippled, etc, so I think it is still common enough near me
He saw Pulp Fiction and thought he was clever
It meant that stretchy plastic craft string when I was a kid.
Yeah, which I hear is also called lanyard string, or even boondoggle.
You have to set the WLBR_IS_GIMP env variable to get the new name. So I guess that might be what they going for, at least for now?
I get what you are saying but IMO the old name was hurting adoption. Imagine the headlines if say some city or government announced they are moving to GIMP from photoshop or affinity.
I imagine them being something along the lines of ‘Government organisation X moves from Photoshop to free open source alternative’ or if a journalist is feeling funny ‘Government organisation X moves from paid image manipulation software (PIMP) to GIMP’.
Anyways, I think it’s only a minor issue limited to English speaking countries, and only a issue for people who already have issues
Adoption in English speaking countries only. Why is adoption equally terrible internationally if the name is to blame?
Seriously, the ONLY reason I actually know gimp has other meanings is because of discussions of the program.
The terrible UI is hurting adoption.
From a name you don’t want to say to a name you can’t say
I think you just pronounce it Wilbur
SFDC, IBM, ADP, KKR MYOB are all similarly unpronouncable as singular words.
I’ve heard of one of these, and IBM has history, brand recognition and rolls off the tongue better.
sfdc (Salesforce dot com) is one of the biggest CRMs in the world and pretty much runs every sales department out there, adp (automatic data processing) is one of the biggest payroll systems in the world.
it’s highly likely you’ve interacted with either or both but maybe in a white-labelled way (e.g. all of Carmax’s computer systems run entirely off Salesforce)
I’ve heard of and professionally used salesforce, and never heard of it referred as SFDC
oh interesting - I’ve worked at 4 companies in 10 years, they all called it that.
same here, but we called it salesforce.
and absolutely everything related to it was called that: salesforce support team == salesforce
salesforce cloud == salesforce
salesforce time share seminar == salesforce
guy who used to work at saleseforce == salesforce.
Wait Salesforce has an acroynm?
Everyone I know who’s ever used it just says/writes ‘Salesforce.’
I am now discovering through these replies that seems to be the case. Maybe it’s a regional thing? im in SE USA
NW USA, Seattle area is where most of my dialect/experience is from.
adp (automatic data processing) is one of the biggest payroll systems in the world.
i always wondered what adp meant; i just assumed it was initials of the rich guys who create it. lol
I will be locking this issue to avoid non-core developers spamming with the same walls of texts about the project name.
Bruno is a very wise man.
