• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    Well, if we had risen up against the rich, instead of letting them rule the world at least the last image would have been avoided.

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    (1953) The War of the Worlds

    (1966) Fahrenheit 451

    (1973) Soylent Green

    (1984) 1984

    (1999) Matrix

    (2004) Children of Men

    (2012) The Hunger Games

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    Educated people saw the 2020 vision as far back as 1950s. They warned us many times, but we never listened.

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      “we”

      You mean the rich and powerful who could’ve solved the systemic environmental issues didn’t, who got it told directly all the time. Who could’ve done something against Exxon and the others. Don’t lump the masses together with such assholes.

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        There /is/ a large portion of the masses who are perfectly aligned with the goals of the rich and powerful and are happy to shit on their own doorstep for even a moment’s convenience

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        I mean ‘we’ as everyone collectively, as society. It’s just manner of speaking. I wasn’t even alive for most of the time frame mentioned, so I’m perfectly aware not everyone was actually able to ‘listen’ to the warnings.

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    Understandable, but ysk that it is an illusion. You always think the past was better than it is now.

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    I was listening to that old song called Dust in the Wind by Kansas and there’s that line that goes nothing lasts forever but the Earth and Sky, and I thought, those lucky bastards thinking that the Earth and sky would last forever, what a comfort that would be. I can deal with the natural inevitability of death, but knowing that the Earth will die because we’re killing it really fucks me up.

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    i mean, this mostly applies to american mindset. “work hard” is a function of progress; in the absence of progress, it stops making sense. and people who only knew how to work hard their entire life suddenly see that way of life ending.

    there’s a lot of americans who think that way. “work hard and you can make it”. nah

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    That last example is from the original Fallout game, which came out in the late 90s, not the 2020s.

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    I guess there’s some solace or hope to be found in the fact that all the previous predictions weren’t accurate?

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      Don’t worry, we were fucked since before you were born. We overshot our ecosystem long, long ago, it just takes decades for the consequences to catch up.

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      You’re just in the wrong country, aligned with the wrong set of politics, speaking the wrong language.

      The future isn’t American anymore. The future is Mexican and Brazilian. The future is African. The future is Chinese.

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          The ability to endure it and survive - even thrive - in the face of it will vary heavily based on national leadership.

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            Tell that to the vast swathes of the globe, including China, due to face lethal wet bulb temperatures within the next 10-20 years. Which, along with mass death, means massive breadbasket failures on multiple fronts. Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.

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              Yeah, and someone was just arguing with me in a different thread saying vertical warehouse farming is stupid and we should just grow our crops in the ground outside 🙄

              Like, I’m trying to be helpful here, but sure let’s continue to make no systemic changes to the way things are done and just be frustrated when our problems only continue to get worse…

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              lethal wet bulb temperatures

              Europe wants to rebalance trade with Beijing, but can’t quit Chinese air conditioners

              One country is producing all of the world’s air conditioners. I wonder if they’re in a better position to endure wet-bulb temperatures than their peers.

              Ain’t politicking our way out of this one, chief.

              They absolutely can and will. This is a country that can build the infrastructure to keep people from dying of overheating. What’s more, this is the country that can export that infrastructure globally, such that its allies will see improved survivability. And that will have cascading knock-on effects.

              The ability to survive climate change is the ability to operate as a global center of gravity.

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                Are we talking about the same country here? Where in “southern” provinces like Sichuan there is no heating provided in buildings? And people rely on electric heaters and blankets to stay warm?

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                I think you missed the ‘massive breadbasket failures’ part of my comment. You can’t air condition a field of rice. Well, you could, but good luck trying that on the scale needed to feed everyone once crops begin to fail globally.

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                You do realize how many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right? Usually in some of the places that will be most impacted by climate change, too. Air conditioners won’t be of much help to them.

                Also, do you know how much coal China burns each year?

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                  many people in the world live in houses that aren’t even fully-enclosed, right?

                  It’s crazy that you treat this as an insurmountable obstacle. Much less that there’s no political cache in surmounting it.

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            That, and natural resources. Idk how many freshwater lakes and rivers Mexico has but it’s not looking good for the ones they do have.

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            Kind of, I guess. Depends on if there any animals larger than a cat left after the temperature change stops and levels off.

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              Depends if we can adapt them quickly enough to survive.

              Brazil has been dismantling our biotech sector for 20 years now, so I’m not optimist, but YMMV.

              Anyway, I’m more optimist on avoiding problem than on dealing with it.

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              High temperatures don’t preclude large lifeforms. Just ask the dinosaurs.

              But you need the ability to adapt at speed and scale for the entire ecological colony. You can’t rely on biomes that cater exclusively to a handful of apex predators.

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                  The planet has been undergoing the 6th global extinction event in its history for over 30,000 years. During this time period, humanity has flourished even as millions of other species have died out.

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        Doubtful. Climate change as well as its economic impact will affect most of these areas especially hard

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    I mean the rich are building bunkers so the bottom Fallout 1 death screen is appropriate if you know the lore of the vaults/bunkers.