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    Why would they have to block anything? Surely a real Christian wouldn’t be interested in any of that in the first place!

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      Yes but the devil plays weird tricks so they may be tempted by those.

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    You know who didn’t block sex-workers and Queer people? Jesus.

    (Jesus offends the religious authorities more than a few times because of His associations, notably “prostitutes”–with a later tradition holding that the woman to whom Jesus’ return from death was first revealed, Mary Magdalene, was herself a sex-worker; as for Queer followers in the Bible, Jesus makes reference to “eunuchs” and Jesus Himself seems to fit on the asexual scale)

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      My guess is it’s a trap to get thumpers to pay a premium for what is just a custom DNS.

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        Love it. Parents putting their kids on the network thinking it’ll stop them from being able to access anything, kids set any other DNS, parents will never know.

        Yet again a parenting task pawned off to a corporate promise they can’t keep instead of teaching responsibility.

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    bigotry in religion? thats old news, isp blocking based on those bigotries, well thats old news too but somehow this is a new level of stupid and awful. great.

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    I’ve seen more posts about this than are necessary for a person to see. I think zero is probably the optimal number, but can anyone explain why this is worth printing even one story about?

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    If you have to self-police like that, your followers don’t believe in the morals you preach.

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      Reminds me of being asked how I keep from murdering and raping people, since I do not believe in an eternal damnation.

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        scary people, if religion is only thing that keeps them from doing that, which that question implies.

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          How do you hold back the nonstop compulsion to commit horrible crimes which we all feel constantly??

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            I do only the crimes that my dear friend Mr fibbles the sockpuppet has approved.

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      I think this network will primarily be used by parents to keep their kids from being tempted into sin or discovering that queer people exist

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            Kissing Jesus on the cheek is totally not gay my dudes! In face, if you wanna kill people who are like Jesus, just kiss em on the cheek! That’ll show the police officers that you’re an American born cisgender hetero white dude who is totally not gay and will send Trump haters to die./s

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        or discovering that queer people exist

        So they’ll never know that people of the same sex fuck each other and continue to perpetuate hate towards them. Now that is sin.

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          Except for some who just cheat with people of their own gender and live in extreme guilt wondering why they keep doing it.

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        Nah, if I have kids (once the economy allows me to do so without being on the verge of bankruptcy), I’m giving them a Karri Messenger 1 to start out with, then the Messenger 2: https://karri.io/collections/all

        Then when they’re older: Light Phone: https://www.thelightphone.com/

        If they absolutely need a phone like the other kids, or when they’re 16-18, they’re getting a phone with GrapheneOS on it.

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        And Jesus says literally everyone is sick and the only cure is to embrace selfless love for all. So why are they pretending they can fix it with draconian authoritarian dipshittery?

        Oh, right, it’s because they don’t care about Christ, they’re just leaning on the social leverage provided by espousing a Christian identity. My mistake.

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          draconian authoritarian dipshittery

          So long as it is voluntary, I’m alright with it. Let people choose what’s best for themselves. If it attempts to get codified into law, that’s a different matter.

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            Is it voluntary? How voluntary? Is it voluntary like, something a random stranger might decide is best for them, or voluntary like someone was raised by an abusive religious family so this seems normal to them despite science proving otherwise? Voluntary like someone convinced them they’d go to eternal damnation if they didn’t go along with it?

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                You can, but can everyone? We’re talking about a demographic that only exists because they’re hypocrites who enforce their religion of peace through violence at every level of society. I don’t care if you think they have a choice because I already know how they feel like they have no other choice at all, because of the forces which shaped their worldview.

                There’s nothing voluntary about it for the target audience, and that’s the only reason it could ever possibly succeed.

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                  can everyone?

                  That’s a different question with all the laws passed since 9/11 revolving around random people being able to easily get a phone with no ID, no bank account, etc like they are going to the store to get a gallon of milk. The patriot act can die in a fire. If you want to affect change to make smuggling an unrestricted phone to someone in a cult, the patriot act has to go.

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        I’m not certain that spending time on networks that are “void of lgbt, void of the trans” is the doctor that these people need to cure them of their transphobia and homophobia.

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          People not like me are evil! Being constantly hateful about nature … their “god’s” own invention. How blasphemous.

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          Right, but their mentality is that it is a disease. Also I think the saying “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” applies here.

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      Freud would give you a long diatribe about the distinction between Id, Ego, and Superego.

      You can believe a thing is wrong and still do it. Ask any smoker. You can do a thing and wrestle with the psychological consequences afterwards. Ask anyone who has ever felt guilty. You can plan to behave a certain way and become derailed by impulses or anxiety. Ask anyone who has ever succumbed to fear or pain.

      Self-policing is a logical response to an illogical/immoral impulse. Tossing cookies out of the cabinet and ice cream out of the fridge is the first step towards dieting. Cancelling your credit card is a technique to curb impulsive spending. How is this any different?

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        Freud would

        Can we please not. I don’t bring up hylomorphism when I talk about physics, so can you please give psychology a similar dignity by treating it like an actual science?

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          I don’t bring up hylomorphism when I talk about physics

          Psychology isn’t a question of physics. The complex machine that is the human brain isn’t some single-action lever with a discrete well-defined input/output relationship. Neither is the human brain some binary circuit governed by logic gates and trivially deterministic sequences.

          At some point, you have to approach psychology experimentally. You can’t just wave your hands and assume you know how the black box of the mind is going to work. And you can’t dismiss the accumulated experimental data because you don’t like the person who spearheaded its compilation.

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            And you can’t dismiss the accumulated experimental data

            I don’t. I actually read psychology meta-analyses about accumulated experimental data, and relatively few individual papers are using terms like “superego” (and I can find two meta-analyses, one of which is just describing psychoanalysis). Even then, it’s within a modern framework of psychoanalysis which has evolved over 100 years, not regurgitating what they think “Freud would say”. You’re citing Freud specifically by literally saying “here’s what Freud would say”, so don’t strawman me by pretending I’m anti-experimental data or whatever the fuck.

            Psychology isn’t a question of physics.

            I’m not saying it is; it’s an emergent phenomenon in a chain thereof. I’m saying it is a science that deserves to actually be taken seriously, not mired in “here’s what someone who barely understood the field as we understand it today would’ve said” like that holds literally any weight about why people behave the way they do.

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              I’m saying it is a science that deserves to actually be taken seriously

              If you’re dismissing the scientific method, you’re not taking science seriously.

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              Your vibrations in the ether seem distressed my friend. A nice warm cup of tea will help re-balance your humours.

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                God. Damn. It. A cup of tea sounds really refreshing right now, and I’m going to have one. Stupid science bitches finally made I more smarter.

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        Yeah, the story goes adam and eve lived in the garden without sin, without clothing, and without the mental capacity to think of nudity as sin.

        The only sin there was, is not to eat the apple. Satan then convinced eve to eat the apple, and god was an asshole for denying her. So thats what eve did, and comitted the first sin. After that adam and eve saw each other nude as a sin, and for the first time felt the need to cover up.

        Thus, thats whats being referenced here.

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          As I recall the story, the tempter was only ever identified as the Serpent. They were even cursed to always go on their belly afterwards, which I don’t recall Satan doing.

          Depending on your mythology, Satan might have instigated that; but I don’t think it was ever established in the story

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              So God cursed Satan to crawl on his belly forever and Satan is like LOL I’ll transform to a different shape? Seems like a weak God.

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              Yeah, I see a lot of people claiming that - but does the Bible make that claim?

              Here’s how the serpent was cursed:

              Because you have done this, You are cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.

              I don’t see Satan going on his belly, bruising our heels, or getting his head bruised! How did he escape a curse placed by God? Or is this just the snake’s origin story too? I’m not going to claim the serpent might not have been put up to it, but I don’t see Satan himself making an appearance here.

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              That’s a common interpretation but it’s not actually confirmed anywhere in the bible that the serpent was Satan

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                The types of christians who would dig this repressive mobile network are the kind who prefer overly simplified and easily digestible theology; that is to say the people who would pitch and want this phone definitely are in the “serpent is satan” camp not, “lets have a nuanced discussion about metaphors”. Not that they would accept the rebuttal, but i don’t think it’s invalid from the frameworks that produce this nonsense

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    I imagine CSAM content will be exempt from this block.

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      I for one am not sure this isn’t just some galaxy brain chess shit to entrap said freaks on part of some good Samaritan.