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Trin also slaps her hand against that phone booth’s glass milliseconds before being aerosolized by truck after the agents tracked her shit on a landline, making landlines just about (but not quite) the shittiest way to leave the matrix, but go on.
The payphones are still available in my country in case of emergencies. They were refurbished and less dirty than they were in the past. But funny enough, some payphones were converted as first aid stations. As much as our government can be deliberately inefficient and corrupt, they are good with adapting to changing times to keep some public services relevant. One thing I’m proud of is our postal service, which branched out to mobile network operator and banking to stay relevant.
We still have just as many landlines, if not more. They are just internet connections now. Probably even more suitable for connecting to the real world.
Watch the AniMatrix.
There are other ways… to get out.
… they are just exceptionally difficult to pull off, and can only be pulled off by exceptional individuals.
… … and they also do not tend to involve a real world hovercraft crew waiting to retrieve your emaciated, atrophied and basically blind body.
You’re on your own.
Are they frame-perfect?
As in, frame perfect execution of some kind of set of inputs, like a speed runner would have to pull off?
No, not in the Matrix canon I can recall off the top of my head.
They’re more focused on an… unwavering belief, or faith, in something.
Not any kind of technical, machine-like ability to execute a complex task, with high precision.
The point is being incredibly human in a way that is not machine-like, that’s the way(s) out, not in trying to out machine a machine.
EDIT:
As the Architect says to Neo in Matrix 2:
Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.
They cannot fully account for, figure out a way to fully contain what you might call the human spirit, or irrational faith of some kind.
Neo’s particular variant of this kind of irrational drive… is his love of Trinity.
… its rather sappy, actually, lol.
4 more or less inverts this, it is Trinity’s love of Neo that ultimately saves/reawakens him.
Usain Bolt slamming into the end of the track after that 100m, oof I get chills. And he’s practically non-existent now, his true self left this world in 2009
The only one I remember was the kid jumping off the building. What others were there?
I can’t believe there was never a scandal about the short that suggests you can leave “The Matrix” by jumping to your death.
tetris11 got it, the sprinter from World Record.
Essentially, he’s such a top tier athlete, so determined, that he… breaks through the veil of ‘reality’, in his pursuit of greatness.
Whereas the kid… has an incredibly certain sense of belief in … more or less, the idea of Neo as a transcended individual, as a kind of means of attaining his own transendence.
… MxO went into more of these methods of either escaping or becoming aware of the Matrix, independently, as basically class build archetypes…
But I have absolutely no idea what the ‘canon’ status of any of it is, at this point.
Probably just ‘not canon’, I don’t know.
Its also doubly confusing because back when MxO was running… different server shards actually experienced different ‘storylines’, due to there being a … roughly every 3 or 6 month … sort of faction competition for which variant of a major plot point would play out in which way.
So… these different shards all experienced kind of fundentally opposed ‘canons’.
… but nobody remembers any of that, these days.
But at the same time…we are our choices and our memories.
Its also possible that… MxO, or a sequel to it was the video game that Neo was working on in Matrix 4.
So… who knows, really, hahah!
If that were really the way out of the matrix, why would they let the secret out in a movie seen by hundreds of millions?
best way to debunk a narrative is to take control of it
I think the word for this is co-opt.
You don’t ‘debunk’ it.
You put your people either in control of, or position them as massively influential figures within it, or coax such people over to your flavor of that kind of messaging.
co-bunk
de-optulate
Right. I have this conspiracy theory that the media and the government encourage UFO conspiracy theories so they can make them look nuts and crazy, so they are easily dismissed by the mainstream population. Same with the JFK assassination and a bunch of other stuff.
They’ve actually been caught doing this, in some instances.
There was a guy picking up radio signals and chatter from a classified test aircraft or something like thag.
He thought it was weird, reported it to local authorities.
Long story short, the military / government gas lit the fuck out him, told him it might be aliens, keep researching it.
He eventually went pretty much completely insane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz
Do try and keep your wits about you when delving into such stories and theories.
Some are total nonsense spread by grifters, some are innacurate but genuine reports, some are intentional mis and disinfo… and some of it is real.
It’s a fucking mess.
There’s still a lot of payphones in my country. They’re free now and no longer accept money and they also provide free wifi. Recently I’ve been seeing signs on them that kids can call Santa
Recently I’ve been seeing signs on them that kids can call Santa
That’s adorable :)
Which country? Are you restricted to where you can call? Like local calls only? I’m guessing they are VOIP though?
Australia? My guess/ memory is that they earn more from advertising than the cost to maintain them. I think that’s more dystopian. An ageing technology is allowed to keep using public spaces to advertise of they frame it as a public good.
Idk I don’t mind that the very poor that don’t have phones still have an option to make phone calls. I know a lot of victims of abuse use them as a way to make phone calls that aren’t monitored by their abusive partner. The homeless can use them, or maybe your phone died. I don’t recall seeing ads on them but I’m not exactly looking out for payphones.
Plus I’d hardly can a phone call “ageing technology”. I mean yes it’s an old technology, but still very relevant especially for those that don’t have other means of contact
I thought poor people were given free government-paid smartphones? Anyone who qualifies for food stamps can get a free smartphone. Is that no longer a thing? Last time I checked that was around 2016 I guess.
Only if you are super poor enough to qualify, and have time and the capacity to jump through all the hoops to get one, and you live somewhere that there is a provider that has coverage, and ect, ect., then you can get a discount on your cell plan. For some people who are “lucky enough” to be super poor enough, the discount can actually be enough to make the phone essentially $0.
In the US that’s true but don’t remind them or they’ll take it away!
Is this what they started calling Obama phones, since I’m guessing this started during the Obama administration, and that’s just another Republican shitspeak.
The free phone program started earlier but was expanded to smartphones (for Internet and also because homeless people don’t have a landline) under Obama. And yes, Republicans shat on it.
I think they are still around because the government told them they can’t remove them. They are considered a public resource. Remember, Telstra used to be a government entity before it was privatised.
If they offer wifi I’m guessing the phones are VOIP?
yeah but the earth was a better place to live then
Some might even say the peak of our civilization
Well, the Matrix previously simulated a utopia but the humans still rebelled. Then, the Matrix simulated 1999 Earth.
The 1990s was the most peaceful and prosperous time in humanity. This is not universal, if you were in Russia, Rwanda or the Yugoslavia, but overall there was fewer conflict. Humanity as a whole was riding high on the end of cold war, democratisation, and economic growth.
a utopia but the humans still rebelled.
Humans will complain no matter what. There is catharsis.
And Superman doesn’t have a place to change.
They made fun of that all the way back in Superman The Movie (1978)
Telephone booths were still pretty common until the early 90’s
I thought it was a weird idea anyway, since every phonebooth I have ever seen is see-thru. Was there a time when they were just opaque boxes or something without any kind of window?
They weren’t designed for privacy. I’m guessing to was to protect against the elements.
Protect the phone, that is. Also enable you to hear and be heard. The clear glass was to prevent anyone hiding in there, for sex or drugs or ambush.
No, but the windows were smaller, scratched and usually rather dirty, esp in nyc.
Supes can move so quickly he’s all changed and his work suit is neatly folded and tucked into its pouch while anyone watching would just see a brief blur. But he’d rather nobody bumps into him while he’s doing it.
What if you saw Kent go in and Superman come out? Wouldn’t that be slightly suspicious?
I think part of the appeal was, every kid was thinking exactly that. “I would be the one who figured out Superman’s secret identity!”
I like this explanation better than the official reasoning.
Enclosed ones with doors?
Around here they were all little nooks at best.
in the UK, yeah – all the way to the early 2000s you could get free shelter
Pay phones =/= phone booths.
You saw them in restaurants and bars, but the companies didn’t want the hassle of maintaining full on booths.
Right even the ones on the street weren’t “booths” they were more like stands. At least in the US.
He’ll simply have to jump into his TARDIS… wait, no. 🤪🦸
It’s gotten worse: People don’t want to phone with their phone anymore.
Some people. Plenty still do
Pretty sure they could use a cellphone to jack out in Ressurections.
Was Jack out the term they used? Haven’t seen this in forever. Is this one of those “they knew what they were doing” things?
They used the phrase Jack-In but never Jack-Out
They used mirrors in that film
Don’t they use a cell phone in the second one?
No, the 4th one.
I’m sure there’s an app for that. You probably have to side load. Apple won’t allow “Escape the Matrix” in the App Store.
They use mirrors, mostly.
No, that’s the fourth movie.
But the question is how deep a conspiracy theorist they are. Therefore did the second one exist? (Or is that just what they want you to believe…)
They used one in the first one, I thought? Or is that only for communicating?
They can talk to the operator using cell phones, but they can only exit through land lines.
Put down smartphone. Pick up dumb phone.
#2deep4me
Wasn’t Neo mailed a Nokia 8110 to use?
As a burner, not an exit device.
that was to communicate. to actually leave they had to have a landline.
So true.
The matrix tries to coerce you so hard to have a mobile phone.
