Belle.
The original Lemmite.
To be fair, any sapient creature would find it pretty upsetting to be among most humans.
Well, she glossed over the worst parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwA1VeYpvaM
Belle: “I really want to find a town with a decent library”
The Town: “This chick so crazy, she learned to read.”
Beast: “Behold my enormous library”
Belle: “I will fuck the fur off your foreskin if you let me live here.”
Gaston: “Books are scary, burn this place to the ground”
Twitter: “Belle is the bad guy”
Well, TBF she IS really into a furry - that makes all sorts of people a bit squeamish.
Skill issue
On the other hand, Belle is underaged, so those same people are now conflicted.
Is that canon? I don’t think the film mentions her age.
Are you just assuming that because she lives with family? You know that was the norm in the time period it’s set in, right?
She’s the youngest of a family of 12. She’s a maiden. It’s Disney
Youngest of 12 doesn’t mean she’s a child. That’s god awful logic.
And “maiden” back then basically meant “virgin”, which could be almost any unmarried adult woman. There’s no implication that she’s a child.
Mulan was Disney, do you want to try arguing that she was a child too? Even though she saw a matchmaker and joined the military?
Real furry, fine
Pretend furries in fursuits? That’s the 2020’s version of blackface. Y’all are going to have a difficult time once the real furries get political representation
LGBTQ+ are still having problems with that, so I wouldn’t hold my breath.
I think the furries have an illuminati like presence and power over the modern world.
They control all our computer networks, security, and technology.
Unfortunately, they don’t yet seem to understand that themselves - I so wish they’d band together to wield their collective power.
Given how expensive fur suits are, I feel like most of them are secretly tech oligarchs but we just don’t know it because we never see their faces…
Oh, they know, there just isn’t enough of them who want to do that… Yet
SiegedSec kind of did.
What do you mean by real furry?
Because as far as I know, every single furry is wearing a suit right now.
And the beast was literally a monster-fied human being.
It was my best attempt at a joke saying that the beast is a real person that will be coming for all the furries. Really hard to craft while remaining funny and not antagonistic but probably failed.
No, it landed. It just went over that user’s head…
He’s not a furry, he’s a monster, making Belle a monsterfucker.
Fifty years ago you could depict a romance without everyone assuming that they’re fucking.
Simpler times, it was…
Her boyfriend turned back into a human, though. Maybe we should all chip in and get her a Bad Dragon gift card?
Is she really into furries, or is she just into monsterphelia?
More like “monster-feel-ya,” amirite?
Ursorite!
::reads through the lyrics to the song::
Hmm, she makes one comment about the town being poor and provincial, a couple about wanting more out of life, and then the rest of it is the towns folk saying she’s “pretty but weird” and Gaston saying “she’s mine.”
I think this analysis stinks.
Wanting more to life than can be found in a small town is a classic element of whimsy. And it still holds true today.
How many small towns die each year because none of the young people stay? The ones that aren’t ghost towns yet at least have aging populations.
Growing up I remember everyone saying things like “There’s nothing to do here, this county is boring, I want to move to a city.” And then they go off to college and get a job and live in a city, and any time you visit your hometown (except for holidays), nobody you know is there because they all left as soon as they could. And anyone who still lives there is viewed as backwards, pathetic, or a failure.
But the people who stayed view the people who left as the crazy ones, because they’re insular and haven’t seen much of the outside would, and they don’t like anything that conflicts with theirs worldview (read: the collective psychosis endemic to these small towns)
I never got the ‘i’m better then everyone else here’ vibe out of that first song either. And if we did, that’s still a long way off from creepy pushy rapist. Wow, I was really caught unawares by the high amount bad vibes gaston gives off.
“There goes the baker, with his bread like always… the same old bread and rolls to selllll!” That’s ONE you could point at as a jab. The poor, poor boulanger!
I don’t think this is even a jab at the baker, she’s just commenting on the malaise she feels at her life being the same everyday. Relatable honestly.
Yeah that’s just being young. It would be weird if she wasn’t feeling stifled by her surroundings.
What a loser baker, making the staple foods his community likes to eat, and selling them at consistent hours!
She said she’s bored and Twitter heard that she thinks she’s better then a whole town.
…only place…
If only that were true — it’d be great to compartmentalize all the trolls into just that box/site.
But then the troll that survives will be all the stronger, like kodoku.
Wow so you hate Lemmy?
/s
Yeah, but she’s right though. Gaston is psyched to be the biggest fish in their small pond town. Belle wants to be in a bigger pond. She aspires and yearns for more than her little town can ever offer her while everybody else is content to just exist as is. Gaston might not even be literate, yet he has the respect and adoration of pretty much everybody in town. Everybody thinks she’s a fucking weirdo for reading books. She and her father are the town pariahs for growing brains, so it’s kinda wild to criticize them for wanting something better than a town full of people who shit on them while worshipping a dumbass prettyboy.
Yeah, as someone who grew up in a conservative town and got bit by the travel bug, it’s really relatable actually.
People absolutely do look down on you for not being content to just live a “normal life” (meaning "conform to the oppressive standards we impose on you as “normal.”). They’ll make fun of you for being intelligent (“brainiac”/“knowitall”/etc.), and even call you arrogant while worshipping the narcissists who happen to be into sports and machismo culture instead of books and knowledge.
And when you say you want to see the world, they act like you’re arrogant/pretentious. “Oh, so you think you’re better than the rest of us?” And they think it’s unrealistic too. As if no one has ever left their hometown and built a life for themselves anywhere else. And they’ll try to guilt you about it, like “so you’re just going to abandon us?”
It’s really exhausting, to be honest…
Yeah but have you seen him eat eggs???
It’s not as pretty as it sounds
five dozen, no less
There’s a song about it. A different one than you might think https://youtu.be/9DDN5nhCUUU
That man can eat so many eggs.
Dude is roughly the size of a mother-lovin’ barge!!
Right? People who read into this have clearly never been the geek/nerd/weirdo who came from a small town. It’s absolute hell, Belle was relatable as fuck.
You’re right but OP was saying that thinking this was thinking she’s better than the town. It’s one of those situations where a woman can’t win because men are describing her actions. “Woman dreams of a life well lived” is the same as “Woman thinks town is beneath her” except hunting lodge chuds are describing her.
As a man who identifies more with Belle than with the rest of the townspeople, I can absolutely tell you that men who don’t conform get treated the exact same way. It’s not a gender thing.
Also, the women in the town judge her too, so why “can’t win because men are describing her actions”? Again, it’s not a gender thing.
Only an illiterate jock would be upset that someone wants more than an illiterate jock.
The townsfolk’s criticisms of Belle aren’t completely unwarranted. Gaston is a creep and a blowhard, but he’s an accomplished hunter so he’s ostensibly producing something for the town. Belle doesn’t do anything useful, she’s not even a teacher or scholar as far as we know.
Seemed like she was taking care of her father while self-educating in her spare time.
The subtext of your comment indicates that a person is either producing something or is useless, and I both disagree with that idea and think that learning and thinking are incredibly useful to society. I think that if we aren’t striving to enable the option of more idle time for anybody who wants it or needs it, then what the fuck is the point of any of this? Criticizing somebody for enjoying idle time is ludicrous.
“From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs.”
But then what is she doing with that education? I agree that learning and thinking are incredibly useful to society, but only if that knowledge gets applied somehow.
You don’t need to be producing something in the context of increasing shareholder value, but if you have skills and are able then you should be contributing to your community. Especially in a preindustrial European town where people really needed to pull their weight.
Belle was more than able to be an educator but it seems like she was completely disconnected from everyone and chose to spend all of her time on leisure. I don’t think that’s a healthy lifestyle regardless of economic system.
It’s been a while since I watched the movie but I never got the impression that her father needed extra caring for. He fell ill towards the middle of the movie but was healthy in the beginning IIRC.
It’s been a while since I watched the movie but I never got the impression that her father needed extra caring for. He fell ill towards the middle of the movie but was healthy in the beginning IIRC.
Our introduction to him is an invention backfiring and harming him non life threateningly.
I get the impression that without Belle to mind him, he would be dead from an invention that went too wrong, though it is not explicitly stated.
He falls ill after the townsfolk imprison him without heat in winter. Their excuse for locking him up is “he’s crazy” when he tells them of the castle and it’s inhabitants.
I agree that learning and thinking are incredibly useful to society, but only if that knowledge gets applied somehow.
She helped her father. Without her encouragement, he would’ve given up, but he kept at it and finished the wood chopping machine. And it’s implied that he wasn’t really caring for himself. I’m not sure if he did anything else like farm, or maybe he was an aging woodchopper looking to find a way to keep being useful.
Belle was more than able to be an educator but it seems like she was completely disconnected from everyone and chose to spend all of her time on leisure.
How do you educate a town that doesn’t want to be educated? And again, she was self-educating in her spare time. It’s unreasonable to expect every hobby to be expressly for helping others, just as it would be to monetize them. Not to mention, education is an investment. Maybe she could invent something in the future like her father was doing in his later years. More likely is that she might write books of her own, but you see how little the rest of the town values books and those who read them. The town just isn’t the right place for her.
It’s weird that the town gave a shit about her choosing to read, and even weirder that people here in the real world are siding with the fictional dumb hicks here. It’s not like she owed them anything. Especially after the way they treat her and her father. Fuck those judgy yokels. Even these days, I get a sour look when I mention reading books. It’s like half the people in the world decided to grow up to be Matilda’s shitty parents.
No one grills like Hank Hill Nor has skills like Hank Hill To sell propane and propane accessories like Hank Hill
I was about to ask for this! I have been looking for it for years!
I don’t remember the search terms I used but it was in my deep lore folder.
You still won’t find this month’s Playboy centerfold in there, Gaston.
Belle was right and she is one of the few Disney Princesses that is not just a horny teenage idiot following her hormones and getting her parents killed as a result
