• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I mean… Maybe we shouldn’t jump to conclusions here? I’d give it a go lol

    Also, it looks like Philadelphia roll, so might actually go well together.

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    God when can we stop pretending to give a shit about how people eat?

    I’m sure if we keep pretending to care about people putting pineapple on pizza just one more time it will finally be funny, right?

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    I live in Japan and don’t like ranch dressing. I still don’t have a problem with this, really. I think it would overpower the tastes of the ingredients since ranch has garlic, herbs, etc., but that’s their choice.

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    Those “fancy” sushi at restaurants that have the orange sauce drizzled over them in a fancy pattern? That’s mostly mayo, which is in the same family as ranch. I wouldn’t do it, but it’s not as insane as it first appears.

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      This is also a grocery store Philly Roll. We’re already past simple fusion and into some Red Giant Helium-to-Oxygen shit. If my man wants some ranch, then so be it. He’s not denying himself an unsullied cross-cultural experience.

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        Isn’t that more of a California Roll? Around here, a philly roll is salmon, cream cheese and cucumber, no sauce.

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          Standard Philly roll is raw salmon, cream cheese, and avocado, but some places do it differently while maintaining the name. The only hard requirements are salmon (some places even use smoked salmon and call it a Philly roll, which I disagree with, but whatever) and cream cheese.

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            Last time I got a Philadelphia roll, it was smoked salmon and boy was I disappointed. The smokey flavor overpowered everything. Defeats the entire purpose of sushi imo

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            I’m not disagreeing with you, cuz I don’t know, but wikipedia says:

            A Philadelphia roll is a makizushi (also classified as a kawarizushi)[1] type of sushi generally made with smoked (or sometimes raw) salmon, cream cheese, and cucumber, with the rice on the outside (uramaki).[2] It is sometimes made with imitation crab instead of salmon, but can be found to include other ingredients, such as other types of fish,[3] cucumber,[4] scallions,[5] and sesame seed. Like many Western-inspired sushi rolls, its design and name are modified to target an American market, which includes putting the rice on the outside, and the nori in the inside (inside-out sushi) to appeal to western aesthetics.[6][7]

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              Wow. Time for me to make an edit because that is some bullshit.

              It is sometimes made with imitation crab instead of salmon

              I can’t even imagine where this came from because I have never encountered this and I have been eating sushi all over the world. It is never made with imitation crab.

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              I wonder why the inside out roll is supposed to appeal more to westerners. As a westerner, I don’t mind the nori on the outside.

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                I didn’t think I would care, but now that I’ve had both many times I absolutely prefer the rice on the outside.

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                I caught that too. I think it’s the dark color on the outside? They sell onigiri in a lot of our grocery stores and I’ve only seen them covered with opaque wrappings. That’s why I think it’s correct, but I’m not sure. It could also seem less chewy when it’s on the outside because there’s more to stretch? Just guessing.

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          Around here (Texas), it’s the cream cheese and smoked salmon that make a place call it a Philly Roll, and the avocado vs cucumber varies by restaurant. Avocado is pretty popular though, because anything that evokes Tex-Mex will find an audience.

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      My favorite fusions:

      Sushi Burritos

      California Burritos

      Kimchi Mac N Cheese

      Chicken tikka masala pizza

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        I’ve seen photos of sushi burritos on menus, but I’m always confused as to how you’re supposed to eat it? Do you pick it up and bite into it like a burrito? And it doesn’t immediately fall apart?

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        Kimchi Mac N Cheese

        For those reading and thinking “what the actual fuck”, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. This is in steady rotation at my place. You’d think American cheese is a bad fit for asian food, but budae jjigae has been a staple comfort dish in Korea since the war and proudly boasts this flavor combo.

        Anyway, this dish is incredible. The kimchi funk is mellowed by the other ingredients and contributes acid, spice, and seasoning to the overall dish for practically zero effort.

        Top and finish as you like. Here, we like to take it deeper into East Asia by adding chopped green onions, fried shallots, peanuts, and chili crisp.

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          I will never knock anything with kimchi in it. That shit is so goddamn good

          Edit: holy shit I just clicked that link lol… Looks like the kind of dish that I would make at 4am, stoned, in college. Just throw everything I’ve got in a bowl and mix it up.

          And that is not a criticism haha. Looks insane

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            I think you hit the nail on the head there. IMO, it’s very much late-night drinking/partying food. It’s right up there with the Rochester Garbage Plate, Jumbo Slice in downtown D.C., or those hotdogs they serve on the street in Reykjavík.

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            Yes, but more like “kimchi to taste”. For the typical Kraft box, I’d say more like half a cup of kimchi, but please do sneak up on what you think is a good amount if its your first time. For reference, a lot of Korean dishes serve at least a quarter-cup per serving.

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        Curry pizzas sound like a bad idea till you realize a lot of curries are just pizza ingredients that you put on bread.

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        I think the biggest thing aboot poutine isnt that poutine is amazing. It’s that it unlocked some amazing fusions.

        Butter chicken poutine.
        Chicken shawarma poutine.
        Vindaloo poutine.

        It’s all good.

        If it’s saucy and tastes good with cheese, poutine it. It will be amazing.

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        Chicken Tikka Masala burrito! Holds the sauce so good!

        Also, California burritos are fusion? Burrito is a Californian invention, and French fries are pretty American (sorry Belgium).

        Edit: apparently I’m mistaken. I was under the impression that burritos were an invention of the California Gold Rush (distinct from tacos and using flour & lard tortillas).

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          The California Gold Rush was literally right after the territory was ceded from Mexico, so even if burittos had come from then they might as well have been still effectively Mexican anyway.

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            Yeah, I definitely used Californian instead of American there with that in mind. I wouldn’t want to give credit to the white man for burritos.

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          Chicken Tikka Masala burrito! Holds the sauce so good!

          Definitely going to try that with some sour cream and salsa

          Also, California burritos are fusion? Burrito is a Californian invention, and French fries are pretty American (sorry Belgium).

          Burritos are Mexican, Fries are American, thus the fusion into a California Burrito containing a protein + fries + guacamole and salsa.

          Souce: Southern California Native.

          Side note, I miss Dunkirk and Antwerp lol… That’s where I got introduced to Carbonade flamande. Now I make it at home using Chimey ale, throw some cilantro/coriander in there with belgian fries and parmesan on top… So good.

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            As a fellow Southern California native, I’m now extra intrigued that you consider California Burrito to be fusion. I’ve lived in San Diego for over 40 years and have always considered it local cuisine, the fusion aspect never crossed my mind.

            If you’re still around, this is the place that made the chicken tikka masala burrito:

            https://www.masalastreetsandiego.com/

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              As a fellow Southern California native, I’m now extra intrigued that you consider California Burrito to be fusion. I’ve lived in San Diego for over 40 years and have always considered it local cuisine, the fusion aspect never crossed my mind.

              We San Diegans have to remember that San Diego is unique in that it was once part of Mexico and Spain before that, so our local cuisine comes to us already infused. That doesn’t mean it’s not fusion food though. My wife, a native born Mexican has dragged me half across Mexico to see her family and it is in those trips where I realized certain foods are undeniably Mexican in their roots. From Burritos to corn tortilla tacos, they’re mexican. However, french fries are not, thus fusion cuisine.

              Having lived in Chula Vista now for 26 years, I’ve learned two food facts:

              1. Cesar Salad was invented in Tijuana and came to Chula Vista second in the 1930s

              2. The California Burrito was invented in San Ysidro in the 1980s.

              If you’re still around, this is the place that made the chicken tikka masala burrito:

              https://www.masalastreetsandiego.com/

              I’ll give it a shot next time I head up

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    That roll has cream cheese inside. It’s already considered a capital offense in Japan.

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      That’s my thought. There’s nothing more offensive about ranch than using cream cheese.

      I used to live in Japan, and from what I could see, Japanese people aren’t fundamentally opposed to the concept of sushi with weird ingredients. They simply just don’t think it’s normal sushi.

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        Right? I’m Canadian. Poutine is a culture here, especially Quebec (Where I lived for a short time). Poutine is straight fries, fresh cheese curds, and gravy. That’s it.

        You can totally add whatever you want to it. Plenty of restaurants exist to make pulled pork or extra loaded poutine. Want to add green onions? Ceaser dressing? Tater tots? Have at er, bud. Just don’t call it a traditional poutine.

        I make sushi at home. I used to work in a sushi shop full time. We had all the traditional rolls for people but also some off the cuff ones like with cream cheese and such.

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      If the Japanese stop putting salmon out I’ll believe their silly rules.

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      Not really. Just like no one gets offended when Japan use squid ink in burger buns, or put noodles in a baguette/hot dog bun.

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    I read that Europeans here for the World Cup are crazy for ranch dressing. Seems odd that they don’t already have it, given all the American junk food franchises over there.

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      Apparently the Japanese have discovered American food and have lost their goddamn minds. Those poor bastards.

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      We can buy ranch in the UK but its a very new thing. And very american, bit fatty for me tbh.

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      Ranch dressing is basically sour cream and European culture is already high in sour cream, so