Em dashes and emojis
Great catch! That’s a really interesting observation — but no, using em dashes and emojis alone is not a reliable way to tell AI text from human-written text.
Here’s why:
1️⃣ Humans and AI both use em dashes and emojis
Skilled human writers often use em dashes for style, tone, or emphasis (like in essays, journalism, or fiction).
Modern AI models, including ChatGPT, are trained on vast amounts of text — including texts that use em dashes extensively — so they use them naturally.
2️⃣ Em dash frequency varies by context
In formal writing (e.g., academic papers), em dashes are less common, regardless of author.
In casual or conversational writing, both humans and AIs may use them liberally.
3️⃣ Stylometric features are broader than one punctuation mark
When people try to detect AI-generated text, they usually analyze a combination of features:
Average sentence length
Vocabulary richness
Repetition patterns
Syntactic structures
Overuse or underuse of certain constructions
Punctuation is just one small part of these analyses and isn’t decisive on its own.
✅ Bottom line: Em dashes can hint at style, but they aren’t a reliable “tell” for AI detection on their own. You need a holistic analysis of multiple stylistic and structural features to make a meaningful judgment.
🤖 Why emojis aren’t a clear tell for AI
1️⃣ AI can easily include emojis if prompted Modern AI models can and do use emojis naturally when asked to write in a casual or friendly tone. In fact, they can even mimic how humans use them in different contexts (e.g., sparingly or heavily, ironically or sincerely).
2️⃣ Humans vary wildly in emoji usage Some humans use emojis constantly, especially in texting or on social media. Others almost never use them, even in casual writing. Age, culture, and personal style all influence this.
3️⃣ Emojis can be explicitly requested or omitted If you tell an AI “don’t use emojis,” it won’t. Similarly, you can tell it “use lots of emojis,” and it will. So it’s not an inherent trait.
4️⃣ Stylometric detection relies on more than one feature Like em dashes, emojis are only one aspect of style. Real detection tools look at patterns like sentence structure, repetitiveness, word choice entropy, and coherence across paragraphs — not single markers.
✅ When might emojis suggest AI text?
If there is excessively consistent or mechanical emoji usage (e.g., one emoji at the end of every sentence, all very literal), it might suggest machine-generated text or an automated marketing bot.
But even then, it’s not a guarantee — some humans also write this way, especially in advertising.
💡 Bottom line: Emojis alone are not a reliable clue. You need a combination of markers — repetition, coherence, style shifts, and other linguistic fingerprints — to reasonably guess if something is AI-generated.
If you’d like, I can walk you through some actual features that are better indicators (like burstiness, perplexity, or certain syntactic quirks). Want me to break that down?
The illiterate flocking to Lemmy to profess that they don’t know how to make em dashes, therefore it’s AI
Apparently there’s even an en dash and a hyphen.
The English language is so fucked.
There’s even the en-dash, the hyphen and the minus sign, which are theoretically all typographically distinct.
Wrong scene. This is almost literally in the blade runner sequel.
Genuine question, is the sequel any good?
Yes, amazing.
So good. Bleak as fuck, but good, and good in a lot of the same ways.
As an example, watch the whole movie, then rewatch and pay attention to that sex scene-it’s so literarily good.
Edit: abput the sec scene? Really? Where the protagonist
Tap for spoiler
After being retired from the police (and having his termination delayed) he hires a sex worker to fuck while his hologram girlfriend projects herself over.
Except the sex worker is working for the replicant underground/resistance. She wants to use him and roes not give a single shit about him as a person. The plastic mass produced girlfriend-product that he literally bought is projected glitchily over her, and the dialogue is all foreshadiwing as hell.
It’s him symbolically heartbreakingly-bleakly fucking his way from the synthetic world-which doesnt care about him but will lie to him for a price and allow him to play house-to the real world, which doesnt give a single fucking shit about him, and may try to kill him, but would be real, if he stopped projecting his delusions onto it. And it hapoens just as he’s defying his corporate masters and taking his investigation in directions he’s not supposed to, becoming his own, and doing so based on a delusionally hopeful interpretation of some evidence-the fake projected onto the real, pulling him into reality. It’s up there with ‘tears in rain’.
Another take:
She feels bad about it, wrote a incoherant babbling mess of run-on sentences and incoherant rants about your relationship, she then re-read it and found it to be disproportionately mean and possibly hurtful, She then shoved it all into an LLM and prompted:
I’m breaking up with my boyfriend. This is all my natural heartfelt take on the situation <inserts text>, but I find the tone to be callous, angry, and hurtful. Can you please reword this to make the reader feel less attacked, possibly up to and including removing grievances, but at the same time making it clear that this decision is final and that I’d like to part ways amicably, and also that he’s not getting his dog back.
Top comment is about how to get a machine to word something raw and emotional that should have been done in person. Nobody wants to get broken up with, let alone with a script written by a robot. Your take is off putting.
Yet we’re perfectly cool with a card from a department store claiming Happy anniversary to my beautiful wife and I’m so glad that you’re such a good mother to our kids.
Anyone that has a take that is not shoving a red hot poker up AI’s ass gets down voted.
I’m not here for the upvotes. Carry on. And please don’t take it personally, I do hope you have a solid day.
We aren’t really cool with that though, people tend to write a longer personal note inside those cards.
She wants it reworded to be less hurtful but she’s keeping ‘his’ dog?
She’d better start mentioning he kicked it or she just painted herself as… Well, not the worst but, like, really low… Ain’t no ‘amicable’ if you’re kidnapping the dog.
Didn’t want my conjecture to be boring :)
I use em dashes and emojis all the time. OMG, am I AI?
Yes
Me too – oh no! 🫢😬😭
This is a em dash (—).
The most damning thing about your sentence is that you think emojis are stereotypically used by AI, which seems like an AI hallucination because I’ve never heard of that but you confidently asserted it as true.
They’re just riffing off of the description of the post presumably?
what the fuck are you on about, respectfully?
emojis are a notorious facet of OpenAI’s LLM’s styles…
i say this as a “pro-AI” individual. idek why i’m responding to you. you seem like you’re gonna hit me with some weird reactionary shit in turn.
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As if breaking up over text isn’t bad enough by itself.
Oh, look at Mr./Mrs. Fancypants who prefers text2speech bots for breakup. /s
I’ll send over my butler to let her know we’re no longer a thing. /s
thank you, Batman
I actually like using em dashes because it’s the correct thing to do. Also the Oxford comma, correct use of semi colon, and listing things in threes.
And the correct use of: the colon!
If it’s not on the keyboard, it must not be that important to use.
AltGr Shift Dash: Bonjour*
*: Assuming ur running on Penguins.
It is on the mobile one
- dash — em,
Correction:
- hyphen – En dash — Em dash
The mobile keyboard has many obscure keys that no one uses♦→★ | dont th¡nk it should count
It was not on mine - lol and behold, I got all three. All I had to do was hold on the dash.
Ain’t nobody got time for that.
lol and behold
I enjoy that as an expression. 🙃
Hey, mine too, TIL! Yeah, I’m not ever gonna bother with that since I don’t write formal papers on my phone.
Okay, but why would it be more correct than a different dash? Do you not believe in the evolution of language, you want everyone to revert back to 1960s English?
We’ve been together for a long time…
But picture this: not being together.
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Not me any more.
For me, it would take some of the sting out of the break-up.
I would think to myself, “damn, how did I not realize that I was dating a lazy moron?”
Bullet successfully Dodged, Anon.
I’m a markdown nerd who likes to use headers to break up longer post and sometimes properly buletpoint or put ASCII art in preformatted boxes. People who thinks they have the magic sauce on LLM generation detection because a post goes out of their way to do more than the bre minimum with punctuation or formatting is an asshole.
This is a meme post about em dashes, dawg
From the post title, description, and other peoples comments, I took away that the meme is m9re about suspecting your ex didnt even write their own breakup message based off the use of em dashes.
Its a cute surface level joke but it touches in a real nerve because Its becoming more and more common for you to be falsely accused of being an LLM and being told to "ignore all previous instructions and (some stupid instruction) based off small writing quirks like using em or markdown and top comments share this frustration too.
I shouldn’t have to feel self conscious about the way I write
Just to pass armchair llm detector wannabe vibe checks 🖕.
Any time someone accuses me of being a bot I respond with “Tiananmen Winnie the Pooh 8647 Luigi Mangione” and that generally proves my humanity
I’m gonna steal that if you don’t mind
Oh so you’re the AI
Tiananmen Winnie the Pooh 8647 Luigi Mangione
What’d I miss about Winnie the Pooh?
It’s a code that Chinese internet users use to refer to Xi Jinping. Or at least they used to. The CCP caught on and now that phrase gets auto deleted off of Chinese websites. “Tiananmen, Winnie the Pooh” proves I’m not a Chinese AI, and “8647, Luigi Mangione” proves I’m not an American one. I’m not really sure what would prove I’m not a Russian one. “Fuck Vladimir Putin”?
I got told to “ignore previous instructions” because I said I liked looking at a painting. I think that’s just going to be an insult now.
If it’s a longer post it’s usually clear that it’s written by a human even with all of these superficial indicators.
I mean most people are going to use their phones to write messages and given you can’t physically type an em dash it would be normal to be suspicious if you see one.
Edit: turns out you can physically type them. Still, given that it’s not normal to use them it’s a sign in my book.
— try long pressing your phone keyboards hyphen key.
Ok. You can physically type them I concede, but normal humans don’t use them. Still a sign.
I would bet that the amount of non proof writers that uses em dashes goes up just because people see that it’s associated with ai and want to be funny.
Several friends and I have always used them. They’re such a fun punctuation mark.
Yah but your user name is “LanguageIsCool” and you talk about the fun levels of various types of punctuation. You are definitely the outlier here. A cool outlier but an outlier none the less.
Nah plenty of people use them dawg. Maybe you just haven’t been exposed to it.
I use em AND en dashes…
Every user of the em dash on the planet is in this comment section.
Using em dashes is cultured and also cool
The fucking bastards took it from us
You can pry my em dashes — which I use regularly in writing because I love them — from my cold dead hands (To be fair, I really like parenthetical statements too, could be an ADHD thing).
I mean id use them more if i knew how to make them. they hide that fucking button on every keyboard – it’s like some big secret
I’ve been using em dashes for years. I learnt the alt code for them, because using hyphens for dashes looks awful (before that I’d do the double hyphen for an em dash). Also, like me, I notice you put spaces around the em dashes, which is apparently incorrect, but also according to me is the right way to do it.
You’re providing a thought (and a bonus thought)
(as a treat)
Parenthetical statements are so very useful (as they can denote a hierarchy of thoughts (and do many other things))! I love them.
Humans just use dashes - they get the point across and don’t require esoteric button presses.
But it just doesn’t look right. I use a double dash, but most places now convert that automatically to em dash.
On the iPhone I just long-press the dash and get alternates like en and em dash, as well as middot. Otherwise, no esoteric button presses. Works on macOS and iPad too.
No need for long press—double dashes convert automatically
Ok————— nice
Some phones turn hyphens into an em dash.
Fuck using an alt code though, I’m just gonna use a comma even when I shouldn’t
I use the EURKey layout, right alt becomes a modifier key that, among other changes, turns the dash into an em dash. It’s really nice, also for diacritics and such.
I use a keyboard layout, where they are easy to type — this does not make me a llm.
My keyboard does not have an em dash and I have never seen one that does.
Still sus. 🤔
Right CTRL + ---
(right CTRL is my compose touch)Now you have
Edit: the em-dash is in the second row next to the 0. You type it by pressing shift and the mentioned key.
What the hell am I looking at? What the fuck is going on with those diagonal arrows??
They are for playing Dance Dance Revolution.
Jokes aside: this is the Neo2 keyboard layout, which has 6 layers. The arrows are used for switching layers — just think of the shift key as the key used for the first layer switch (from layer 1 to layer 2).
No, it makes you wrong.
There is a wrong keyboard layout?
All QWERTY-based layouts.
– sincerely, Dvorak user.
Fellow Dvorak. It’s great for typos on touchscreens. Too many times I’ve mistyped whole and all.
What a damn shame for all you Holds up DVORAK users that you’re no better than the rest of us filthy QWERTY kids.
https://itotd.com/articles/3528/the-dvorak-keyboard-controversy/
Dvorak. It’s a person’s name, so only the first letter is capitalised.
Anyway, that article uses a lot of words to come to…basically no conclusion whatsoever. I don’t know why anyone would link it when trying to make any sort of a point.
To be fair though, a colon would be the correct punctuation here.
Yesss em dashes are my babies! They’re have more versatility in breaking up sentences than commas IMO, and they don’t have as many annoying rules as semi-colons.
But I also write stories as a hobby so thats the reason its something I care about
I’m with you. I used to use a lot more parentheses, but the break is cleaner. I opt for en dashes, though, because I find too em dashes to be too long. That could just be a MSWord preference because I don’t distinguish on other platforms.