She’s rich, so she knows that things are different for Anakin. Several genocides more later, and turns out she was right, he gets completely absolved and becomes a force ghost as a younger version of himself to boot. Something something dark side affluenza. The force is basically just another dimension to wealth inequality.
He did at least 2 genocides in the movies before the OT, where he destroyed a planet with tarkin, but didn’t he do some genocidal things in the clone wars shows too?
Yoda: “Know of second genocide, she does not.”
We are censoring genocide now?
Maybe it’s to avoid getting buried in the algorithm on mainstream apps that avoid that word. It’s likely just a copy paste from one of those.
Is it censorship to have mcdonalds sponsor your genocide?
I can’t tell if it’s censorship or meme spelling
I know I am. So sick of the overuse and devaluation of the word here.
Which genocide shouldn’t be called a genocide? Come on, say it.
I’m not defending them, but arguably neither of the two in Star Wars being referenced here should be called that. Maybe the jedi one is, if we consider them a religious group and not a political one (debatable at the point of the attack), because it was a widespread extermination of them. The sand people one was just a mass murder though. There wasn’t a systemic extermination of the people, only a large retribution killing of a single group.
Still though, they’re close enough that we all know what it’s talking about. It’s fine.
Seems like a cowardly way of saying you want to ignore all the increasing number of genocides happening in the world.
That’s one interpretation.
Well, considering that you’re refusing to provide any other interpretation, it’s the most probable one.
Come on now, what do people here call a genocide that you think shouldn’t be called a genocide?
Can you give us an example of things you don’t like being referred to as “genocide”?
But c*nsored usage is still usage. Everybody can see the word.
B-based
B*sed.
I mean people are still defending… You know what, I don’t think I want banned from this community.
After she dismissed him murdering what was certainly over a dozen children as “everyone is human” i dismissed her as any moral authority on anything,
Remember, the only Sith who is also a human supremacist was from Naboo.
do we even have a full count of all the genocides?
Was Vader involved in the genosian genocide, too?
Are we counting the genocides during the clone wars?
Like the poisoning of Honoghr?
Sure. Edit: the geonosians were genocided after the clone wars when they were used to start construction on the Death Star and genocided to hide it by the empire.
Bet that made it hard to go back to the builder and order a second one.
I will never understand why the empire didn’t use captured b1 units as droid labor.
Yes, they’re totally incompetent. But it’s either incompetence or intentional sabotage.
Oh, Im not saying that shouldnt be counted just saying Anakin committed a ton of war crimes during the clone wars, you did ask for the full count of genocides afterall
I get that, I was just adding context for people who haven’t seen Rebels. (if anyone hasn’t seen rebels… you should.)
I imagine one is the sand-people tribe, that is arguably ok, and the other is the younglings murder that is a serious misuse of that word.
well the younglings murder was a genocide of the Jedi people. The rampage on the sandpeople tribe was murderous revenge
I don’t think that’s a genocide though.
Mostly because in the Star Wars universe you can’t really wipe out either the Jedi or the Sith. Both try to wipe the other out but haven’t succeedes whatsoever because they are extremely basic religious/philosophical positions: “The force exists to do ‘good’ (whatever ‘good’ is)” vs. “The force exists to make me strong”. Jedi are Jedi and Sith are Sith only because of those values plus some beaurocracy.
Compare that to human religions where they first construct an extremely elaborate setting with a shitton of incorporated fanfiction to argue why they and only they are right and all others are wrong. That’s so much more complex, you’d have to stop believing in a billion different things if you were to switch religions.
Tl;dr: It’s not genocide if I were to kill all philosophy students at my university because in my point of view their views are evil.
If Darth Vader didn’t force roofie his childhood crush, at the bare minimum he was a manipulative asshole and was just saying/doing whatever shed like, just so she’s like him.
Considering how often Jedis use mind tricks, and how Anakin gets corrupted by the dark side, it really doesn’t seem like he’d hold back from doing that.
From what I know of the force, it might not even be controllable?
Like, if you had the highest magic bacteria count as an angry teenager who wasn’t conditioned to suppress every emotional or idea of a romantic life, it might take literal effort not to have the Force influence it.
If everyone else has been suppressing emotions since infants, no one else would know to tell him to watch out for it happening. Maybe Yoda would remember cuz he’s old? I don’t know how long “no boning” was a rule.
Why am I only now realizing he was mind tricking her into liking him?
waves hand
Nah bro, it’s total normal for a planet ruling monarch to immediately throw her life plan away for a monk she met once when he was 8 years old and his religious order had just started suppressing his emotions…
To be clear tho, this is one of those head cannon post fact rationalition things. I’m not saying George wrote it intentionally like this. But we have what we have to go on.
With that and logic, Anakin was likely doing it to everyone. He was an emotionally stunted 8 year old in a teenagers body deep in puberty with an incomparable amount of power he didnt know how to use. He was always doing what an 8 year old would think is cool, and mind tricking people into thinking it’s awesome. That’s why kids loved those movies. Anakin did what kids would want to do and his magic bacteria just made every other character play along like it wasn’t insane.
Like the theory Jar-Jar was actually really powerful, but for him instead of flashy showboating, he just stumbles thru insane situations, looking like a complete idiot but still getting the same result.
Same thing, just manifesting differently due to their own perception of themselves. And Palps used both as tools, like a lion taking the antelope that strays from the herd.
Which is why the Jedi mindwashing was so important for a unified organization. If force manifests based on how the user sees themselves, then you’d want your army of force users to all have the same self opinion.
If George had written Anakin like that, and if he had followed through with Darth Jar Jar, it would’ve been absolutely brilliant.
That horrible “romance” makes more sense now.
wait until you realize that, in AoTC, when Obi and Ani are going up to Padme’s pad, Padme remembers (and is excited to see) Obi and totally didn’t know who Anakin was until Darth Jar jar called out 'Annie!"
they were totally knocking boots.
Edit: also you can see anakin-the-dumbfuck finally putting it together in RotS.
Edit2, also notice how she was far less excited when Obi was there on business.
Do we have conclusive evidence for his intend?
